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Re: [PATCH v2] hw/arm/virt enable support for virtio-mem


From: David Hildenbrand
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] hw/arm/virt enable support for virtio-mem
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 20:17:35 +0100
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On 24.11.20 19:11, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 20:47:09 +0100
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> +CC Eric based on similar query in other branch of the thread.
> 
>> On 05.11.20 18:43, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>>> Basically a cut and paste job from the x86 support with the exception of
>>> needing a larger block size as the Memory Block Size (MIN_SECTION_SIZE)
>>> on ARM64 in Linux is 1G.
>>>
>>> Tested:
>>> * In full emulation and with KVM on an arm64 server.
>>> * cold and hotplug for the virtio-mem-pci device.
>>> * Wide range of memory sizes, added at creation and later.
>>> * Fairly basic memory usage of memory added.  Seems to function as normal.
>>> * NUMA setup with virtio-mem-pci devices on each node.
>>> * Simple migration test.
>>>
>>> Related kernel patch just enables the Kconfig item for ARM64 as an
>>> alternative to x86 in drivers/virtio/Kconfig
>>>
>>> The original patches from David Hildenbrand stated that he thought it should
>>> work for ARM64 but it wasn't enabled in the kernel [1]
>>> It appears he was correct and everything 'just works'.
>>>
>>> The build system related stuff is intended to ensure virtio-mem support is
>>> not built for arm32 (build will fail due no defined block size).
>>> If there is a more elegant way to do this, please point me in the right
>>> direction.  
>>
>> You might be aware of https://virtio-mem.gitlab.io/developer-guide.html 
>> and the "issue" with 64k base pages - 512MB granularity. Similar as the 
>> question from Auger, have you tried running arm64 with differing page 
>> sizes in host/guest?
>>
> 
> Hi David,
> 
>> With recent kernels, you can use "memhp_default_state=online_movable" on 
>> the kernel cmdline to make memory unplug more likely to succeed - 
>> especially with 64k base pages. You just have to be sure to not hotplug 
>> "too much memory" to a VM.
> 
> Thanks for the pointer - that definitely simplifies testing.  Was getting a 
> bit
> tedious with out that.
> 
> As ever other stuff got in the way, so I only just got back to looking at 
> this.
> 
> I've not done a particularly comprehensive set of tests yet, but things seem
> to 'work' with mixed page sizes.
> 
> With 64K pages in general, you run into a problem with the device block_size 
> being
> smaller than the subblock_size.  I've just added a check for that into the

"device block size smaller than subblock size" - that's very common,
e.g.,  on x86-64.

E.g., device_block_size is 2MiB, subblock size 4MiB - until we improve
that in the future in Linux guests.

Or did you mean something else?

> virtio-mem kernel driver and have it fail to probe if that happens.  I don't
> think such a setup makes any sense anyway so no loss there.  Should it make 
> sense
> to drop that restriction in the future we can deal with that then without 
> breaking
> backwards compatibility.
> 
> So the question is whether it makes sense to bother with virtio-mem support
> at all on ARM64 with 64k pages given currently the minimum workable block_size
> is 512MiB?  I guess there is an argument of virtio-mem being a possibly more
> convenient interface than full memory HP.  Curious to hear what people think 
> on
> this?

IMHO we really want it. For example, RHEL is always 64k. This is a
current guest limitation, to be improved in the future - either by
moving away from 512MB huge pages with 64k or by improving
alloc_contig_range().

> 
> 4K guest on 64K host seems fine and no such limit is needed - though there
> may be performance issues doing that.

Yeah, if one is lucky to get one of these 512 MiB huge pages at all :)

> 
> 64k guest on 4k host with 512MiB block size seems fine.
> 
> If there are any places anyone thinks need particular poking I'd appreciate a 
> hint :)

If things seem to work for now, that's great :) Thanks!

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb




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