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Re: Out-of-Process Device Emulation session at KVM Forum 2020
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Michael S. Tsirkin |
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Re: Out-of-Process Device Emulation session at KVM Forum 2020 |
Date: |
Sat, 31 Oct 2020 17:49:06 -0400 |
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 11:13:59AM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > 3. The device can save/load opaque blobs. This is the initial VFIO
> > > approach.
> >
> >
> > I still don't get why it must be opaque.
>
> If the device state format needs to be in the VMM then each device
> needs explicit enablement in each VMM (QEMU, cloud-hypervisor, etc).
And QEMU cares why exactly?
> Let's invert the question: why does the VMM need to understand the
> device state of a _passthrough_ device?
To support cross version migration and compatibility checks.
This problem is harder than it appears, I don't think vendors
will do a good job of it without any guidance and standards.
--
MST
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- Re: Out-of-Process Device Emulation session at KVM Forum 2020, Jason Wang, 2020/10/29
- Re: Out-of-Process Device Emulation session at KVM Forum 2020, Alex Williamson, 2020/10/29
- Re: Out-of-Process Device Emulation session at KVM Forum 2020, Stefan Hajnoczi, 2020/10/30
- Re: Out-of-Process Device Emulation session at KVM Forum 2020, Jason Wang, 2020/10/30
- Re: Out-of-Process Device Emulation session at KVM Forum 2020, Stefan Hajnoczi, 2020/10/30
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- Re: Out-of-Process Device Emulation session at KVM Forum 2020,
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