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Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] Qemu SEV-ES guest support


From: Dr. David Alan Gilbert
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] Qemu SEV-ES guest support
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 12:48:36 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/1.14.6 (2020-07-11)

* Tom Lendacky (thomas.lendacky@amd.com) wrote:
> On 9/18/20 5:00 AM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Tom Lendacky (thomas.lendacky@amd.com) wrote:
> > > On 9/17/20 12:28 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > > * Tom Lendacky (thomas.lendacky@amd.com) wrote:
> > > > > From: Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
> > > > > 
> > > > > This patch series provides support for launching an SEV-ES guest.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Secure Encrypted Virtualization - Encrypted State (SEV-ES) expands on 
> > > > > the
> > > > > SEV support to protect the guest register state from the hypervisor. 
> > > > > See
> > > > > "AMD64 Architecture Programmer's Manual Volume 2: System Programming",
> > > > > section "15.35 Encrypted State (SEV-ES)" [1].
> > > > > 
> > > > > In order to allow a hypervisor to perform functions on behalf of a 
> > > > > guest,
> > > > > there is architectural support for notifying a guest's operating 
> > > > > system
> > > > > when certain types of VMEXITs are about to occur. This allows the 
> > > > > guest to
> > > > > selectively share information with the hypervisor to satisfy the 
> > > > > requested
> > > > > function. The notification is performed using a new exception, the VMM
> > > > > Communication exception (#VC). The information is shared through the
> > > > > Guest-Hypervisor Communication Block (GHCB) using the VMGEXIT 
> > > > > instruction.
> > > > > The GHCB format and the protocol for using it is documented in "SEV-ES
> > > > > Guest-Hypervisor Communication Block Standardization" [2].
> > > > > 
> > > > > The main areas of the Qemu code that are updated to support SEV-ES are
> > > > > around the SEV guest launch process and AP booting in order to support
> > > > > booting multiple vCPUs.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There are no new command line switches required. Instead, the desire 
> > > > > for
> > > > > SEV-ES is presented using the SEV policy object. Bit 2 of the SEV 
> > > > > policy
> > > > > object indicates that SEV-ES is required.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The SEV launch process is updated in two ways. The first is that a the
> > > > > KVM_SEV_ES_INIT ioctl is used to initialize the guest instead of the
> > > > > standard KVM_SEV_INIT ioctl. The second is that before the SEV launch
> > > > > measurement is calculated, the LAUNCH_UPDATE_VMSA SEV API is invoked 
> > > > > for
> > > > > each vCPU that Qemu has created. Once the LAUNCH_UPDATE_VMSA API has 
> > > > > been
> > > > > invoked, no direct changes to the guest register state can be made.
> > > > > 
> > > > > AP booting poses some interesting challenges. The INIT-SIPI-SIPI 
> > > > > sequence
> > > > > is typically used to boot the APs. However, the hypervisor is not 
> > > > > allowed
> > > > > to update the guest registers. For the APs, the reset vector must be 
> > > > > known
> > > > > in advance. An OVMF method to provide a known reset vector address 
> > > > > exists
> > > > > by providing an SEV information block, identified by UUID, near the 
> > > > > end of
> > > > > the firmware [3]. OVMF will program the jump to the actual reset 
> > > > > vector in
> > > > > this area of memory. Since the memory location is known in advance, 
> > > > > an AP
> > > > > can be created with the known reset vector address as its starting 
> > > > > CS:IP.
> > > > > The GHCB document [2] talks about how SMP booting under SEV-ES is
> > > > > performed. SEV-ES also requires the use of the in-kernel irqchip 
> > > > > support
> > > > > in order to minimize the changes required to Qemu to support AP 
> > > > > booting.
> > > > 
> > > > Some random thoughts:
> > > >     a) Is there something that explicitly disallows SMM?
> > > 
> > > There isn't currently. Is there a way to know early on that SMM is 
> > > enabled?
> > > Could I just call x86_machine_is_smm_enabled() to check that?
> > > 
> > > >     b) I think all the interfaces you're using are already defined in
> > > > Linux header files - even if the code to implement them isn't actually
> > > > upstream in the kernel yet (the launch_update in particular) - we
> > > > normally wait for the kernel interface to be accepted before taking the
> > > > QEMU patches, but if the constants are in the headers already I'm not
> > > > sure what the rule is.
> > > 
> > > Correct, everything was already present from a Linux header perspective.
> > > 
> > > >     c) What happens if QEMU reads the register values from the state if
> > > > the guest is paused - does it just see junk?  I'm just wondering if you
> > > > need to add checks in places it might try to.
> > > 
> > > I thought about what to do about calls to read the registers once the 
> > > guest
> > > state has become encrypted. I think it would take a lot of changes to make
> > > Qemu "protected state aware" for what I see as little gain. Qemu is likely
> > > to see a lot of zeroes or actual register values from the GHCB protocol 
> > > for
> > > previous VMGEXITs that took place.
> > 
> > Yep, that's fair enough - I was curious if we'll hit anything
> > accidentally still reading it.
> > 
> > How does SEV-ES interact with the 'NODBG' flag of the guest policy - if
> > that's 0, and 'debugging of the guest' is allowed, what can you actually
> > do?
> 
> The SEV-ES KVM patches will disallow debugging of the guest, or at least
> setting breakpoints using the debug registers. Gdb can still break in, but
> you wont get anything reasonable with register dumps and memory dumps.
> 
> The NODBG policy bit enables or disables the DBG_DECRYPT and DBG_ENCRYPT
> APIs. So if the guest has allowed debugging, memory dumps could be done
> using those APIs (for encrypted pages). Registers are a different story
> because you simply can't update from the hypervisor side under SEV-ES.
> 
> Under SEV you could do actual debugging if the support was developed and in
> place.

Thanks for the explanation - it might be interesting to wire the
DBG_DECRYPT support up to dump/dump.c for doing full guest memory dumps
- if the policy has it enabled.

Dave

> Thanks,
> Tom
> 
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tom
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Dave
> > > > 
> > > > > [1] 
> > > > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amd.com%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2FTechDocs%2F24593.pdf&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cthomas.lendacky%40amd.com%7Cecf88d6f7bd0494d1b0e08d85bb9c19b%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637360201727448609&amp;sdata=e6CbpjDDvCUG2q9pk6OSsty0QB5HuhueVAM4t8iygT8%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > > > [2] 
> > > > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeveloper.amd.com%2Fwp-content%2Fresources%2F56421.pdf&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cthomas.lendacky%40amd.com%7Cecf88d6f7bd0494d1b0e08d85bb9c19b%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637360201727448609&amp;sdata=%2FUzJB5K%2F8rOMF%2B%2BVPXjg%2BJBLgD4uLW6U82Wvf8pXq%2BA%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > > > [3] 30937f2f98c4 ("OvmfPkg: Use the SEV-ES work area for the SEV-ES 
> > > > > AP reset vector")
> > > > >       
> > > > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftianocore%2Fedk2%2Fcommit%2F30937f2f98c42496f2f143fe8374ae7f7e684847&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cthomas.lendacky%40amd.com%7Cecf88d6f7bd0494d1b0e08d85bb9c19b%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637360201727458605&amp;sdata=0FmiYEdIEtDjw1VIGaeeRrto%2FZpvH1esIgE93gXyagM%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > > > 
> > > > > ---
> > > > > 
> > > > > These patches are based on commit:
> > > > > d0ed6a69d3 ("Update version for v5.1.0 release")
> > > > > 
> > > > > (I tried basing on the latest Qemu commit, but I was having build 
> > > > > issues
> > > > > that level)
> > > > > 
> > > > > A version of the tree can be found at:
> > > > > https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FAMDESE%2Fqemu%2Ftree%2Fsev-es-v11&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cthomas.lendacky%40amd.com%7Cecf88d6f7bd0494d1b0e08d85bb9c19b%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637360201727458605&amp;sdata=w1tfrMDgruZBDxNHgKLhpKtQ50Ua%2FMy9IfkSXfne2xg%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > > > 
> > > > > Changes since v2:
> > > > > - Add in-kernel irqchip requirement for SEV-ES guests
> > > > > 
> > > > > Changes since v1:
> > > > > - Fixed checkpatch.pl errors/warnings
> > > > > 
> > > > > Tom Lendacky (5):
> > > > >     sev/i386: Add initial support for SEV-ES
> > > > >     sev/i386: Require in-kernel irqchip support for SEV-ES guests
> > > > >     sev/i386: Allow AP booting under SEV-ES
> > > > >     sev/i386: Don't allow a system reset under an SEV-ES guest
> > > > >     sev/i386: Enable an SEV-ES guest based on SEV policy
> > > > > 
> > > > >    accel/kvm/kvm-all.c       |  73 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > >    accel/stubs/kvm-stub.c    |   5 ++
> > > > >    hw/i386/pc_sysfw.c        |  10 +++-
> > > > >    include/sysemu/cpus.h     |   2 +
> > > > >    include/sysemu/hw_accel.h |   5 ++
> > > > >    include/sysemu/kvm.h      |  18 +++++++
> > > > >    include/sysemu/sev.h      |   3 ++
> > > > >    softmmu/cpus.c            |   5 ++
> > > > >    softmmu/vl.c              |   5 +-
> > > > >    target/i386/cpu.c         |   1 +
> > > > >    target/i386/kvm.c         |   2 +
> > > > >    target/i386/sev-stub.c    |   5 ++
> > > > >    target/i386/sev.c         | 105 
> > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > > > >    target/i386/sev_i386.h    |   1 +
> > > > >    14 files changed, 236 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > 2.28.0
> > > > > 
> > > 
> 
-- 
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK




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