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Re: Python 3.5 EOL; when can require 3.6?


From: Daniel P . Berrangé
Subject: Re: Python 3.5 EOL; when can require 3.6?
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:55:12 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/1.14.6 (2020-07-11)

On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 04:10:55PM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 16/09/2020 16.00, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > On 16/09/2020 14.30, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 08:43, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>> We require Python 3.5.  It will reach its "end of life" at the end of
> >>> September 2020[*].  Any reason not to require 3.6 for 5.2?  qemu-iotests
> >>> already does for its Python parts.
> > [...]
> >> The default should be
> >> "leave the version dependency where it is", not "bump the version
> >> dependency as soon as we can".
> > 
> > OTOH, if none of our supported build systems uses python 3.5 by default
> > anymore, it also will not get tested anymore, so bugs might creep in,
> > which will of course end up in a bad experience for the users, too, that
> > still try to build with such an old version. So limiting the version to
> > the level that we also test is IMHO very reasonable.
> > 
> > Let's have a look at the (older) systems that we support and the python
> > versions according to repology.org:
> > 
> > - RHEL7 / CentOS 7 : 3.6.8
> > - Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic) : >= 3.6.5
> > - openSUSE Leap 15.0 : >= 3.6.5
> > - OpenBSD Ports : >= 3.7.9
> > - FreeBSD Ports : >= 3.5.10 - but there is also 3.6 or newer
> > - Homebrew : >= 3.7.9
> > 
> > ... so I think it should be fine to retire 3.5 nowadays.
> 
> Sorry, I forgot to check Debian. If I got that right, Debian 9 still
> uses Python 3.5 by default. So I guess that means we can not deprecate
> Python 3.5 yet?

FWIW, Debian 9 EOL was July this year, if you only count the regular
lifetime, not the LTS.

Regards,
Daniel
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