qemu-devel
[Top][All Lists]
Advanced

[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

backing chain & block status & filters


From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
Subject: backing chain & block status & filters
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 11:55:35 +0300
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1

Hi!

I wanted to resend my "[PATCH 0/4] fix & merge block_status_above and 
is_allocated_above", and returned to all the inconsistencies about block-status. I keep 
in mind Max's series about child-access functions, and Andrey's work about using COR filter 
in block-stream, which depends on Max's series (because, without them COR fitler with file 
child breaks backing chains).. And, it seems that it's better to discuss some questions 
before resending.

First, problems about block-status:

1. We consider ALLOCATED = ZERO | DATA, and documented as follows:

   * BDRV_BLOCK_DATA: allocation for data at offset is tied to this layer
   * BDRV_BLOCK_ZERO: offset reads as zero
   * BDRV_BLOCK_OFFSET_VALID: an associated offset exists for accessing raw data
   * BDRV_BLOCK_ALLOCATED: the content of the block is determined by this
   *                       layer rather than any backing, set by block layer

This actually means, that we should always have BDRV_BLOCK_ALLOCATED for 
formats which doesn't support backing. So, all such format drivers must return 
ZERO or DATA (or both?), yes?. Seems file-posix does so, but, for example, 
iscsi - doesn't.

2. ZERO. The meaning differs a bit for generic block_status and for drivers.. I 
think, we at least should document it like this:

BDRV_BLOCK_DATA: allocation for data at offset is tied to this layer
BDRV_BLOCK_ZERO: if driver return ZERO, than the region is allocated at this 
layer and read as ZERO. If generic block_status returns ZERO, it only mean that 
it reads as zero, but the region may be allocated on underlying level.

3. bdi.unallocated_blocks_are_zero

I think it's very bad, that we have formats, that supports backing, but doesn't 
report bdi.unallocated_blocks_are_zero as true. It means that UNALLOCATED 
region reads as zero if we have short backing file, and not as zero if we 
remove this short backing file. I can live with it but this is weird logic. 
These bad drivers are qcow (not qcow2), parallels and vmdk. I hope, they 
actually just forget to set unallocated_blocks_are_zero to true.

Next. But what about drivers which doesn't support backing? As we considered 
above, they should always return ZERO or DATA, as everything is allocated in 
this backing-chain level (last level, of course).. So again 
unallocated_blocks_are_zero is meaningless. So, I think, that driver which 
doesn't support backings, should be fixed to return always ZERO or DATA, than 
we don't need this unallocated_blocks_are_zero at all.

3. Short backing files in allocated_above: we must consider space after EOF as ALLOCATED, if 
short backing file is inside requested backing-chain part, as it produced exactly because of 
this short file (and we never go to backing). (current realization of allocated_above is 
buggy, see my outdated series "[PATCH 0/4] fix & merge block_status_above and 
is_allocated_above")

4. Long ago we've discussed problems about BDRV_BLOCK_RAW, when we have a 
backing chain of non-backing child.. I just remember that we didn't reach the 
consensus.

5. Filters.. OK we have two functions for them: bdrv_co_block_status_from_file 
and bdrv_co_block_status_from_backing. I think both are wrong:

bdrv_co_block_status_from_file leads to problem [4], when we can report 
UNALLOCATED, which refers not to the current backing chain, but to sub backing 
chain of file child, which is inconsistent with block_status_above and 
is_allocated_above iteration.

bdrv_co_block_status_from_backing is also is not consistent with 
block_status_above iteration.. At least at leads to querying the same node 
twice.

=================

So, about filters and backing chains. Keeping (OK, just, trying to keep) all these things in mind, 
I think that it's better to keep backing chains exactly *backing* chains, so that 
"backing" child is the only "not own" child of the node. So, its close to 
current behavior and we don't need child-access functions. Then how filters should work:

Filter with backing child, should always return UNALLOCATED (i.e. no DATA, no 
ZERO), it is honest: everything is on the other level of backing chain.

Filter with file child should always return BDRV_BLOCK_DATA | 
BDRV_BLOCK_RECURSE, to show that:
1. everything is allocated in *this* level of backing chain
2. filter is too lazy to dig in it's file child (and, maybe the whole sub-tree 
of it) and asks generic layer to do it by itself, if it wants zeroes.

Then, of course, if we want some filter to be inside backing chain, it should have not 
"file" child but "backing". For this, we may support in current public filter 
both variants: backing or file, as user prefer. I.e., filter is opened either with file option or 
with backing and operate correspondingly. And newer filters (like backup-top) may support only 
backing variants.

=================

So, I propose to complicate a bit code of old file-based filters, to support 
backing child (which may be done on demand, when needed. For example, Virtuozzo 
now need only COR filter (and only to satisfy iotests, actually)), and keep 
generic code about block-status and handling backing-chains simpler (and 
simpler to document).

Another benefit is that block-graph is already visible through QAPI, and it would be good to keep 
backing link meaning, not adding the thing that for filters "file" link behaves as 
"backing".

So again, I'm for limiting backing-behavior to bs->backing child only (as it 
currently behaves). What do you think?

--
Best regards,
Vladimir



reply via email to

[Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread]