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Re: [Bug 1871842] [NEW] AMD CPUID leaf 0x8000'0008 reported number of co


From: Philipp Eppelt
Subject: Re: [Bug 1871842] [NEW] AMD CPUID leaf 0x8000'0008 reported number of cores inconsistent with ACPI.MADT
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 13:27:34 -0000

Hi,

I have to clarify some things mentioned in my last post:

I only tested the change with an emulated EPYC-v2 CPU, I cannot test on
a physical EPYC CPU at the moment. However, I doubt that the results
will be different regarding the 0x8000_0008.ECX result.

The topology information printed is from the EPYC-v2 CPU model. I try to
get access to the machine and have a look if -cpu host affects this
topology.

So there is still the open question for the -enable-kvm -cpu host -smp 4
case. Shouldn't in this case the topology of the host CPU be reported?


In all emulated-CPU cases it's on the user to define the topology or to
live with the generated one (although I think preferring multi-socket
systems is outdated, but it's likely just the case in my 'world').


Cheers,
Philipp


On 4/14/20 10:24 AM, Philipp Eppelt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> thanks for looking into this so quickly.
> 
> With this patch applied ontop of git commit
> f3bac27cc1e303e1860cc55b9b6889ba39dee587 I still have the issue and it
> reports the same numbers. I like the new usage of the ApicIdSize field.
> 
> 
> I looked into the mentioned pc_smp_parse() and had it print the topology
> for -smp 4:
> 
> qemu-system-x86_64: warning: cpu topology: sockets (4) , dies (1) ,
> cores (1) , threads (1) , maxcpus (4), cpus (4)
> 
> and with -smp 4,cores=4:
> 
> qemu-system-x86_64: warning: cpu topology: sockets (1) , dies (1) ,
> cores (4) , threads (1) , maxcpus (4), cpus (4)
> 
> As far as I understand it, these are the numbers the cpuid:8000'0008
> code relies on:
> `cs->nr_cores`, `cs->nr_threads` with `cs` being of type CPUState.
> 
> So I think the issue is rooted with the preferring sockets over cores
> when the -smp cmdline option is parsed, as stated in hw/i386/pc.c:729.
> 
> I guess this is the same code for Intel and AMD CPUs alike and this
> issue just didn't surface for us on Intel CPUs, as they don't have this
> CPUID leaf and we don't look at the topology.
> 
> This seems to boil down to a more careful use of the -smp option on my end.
> 
> Thanks again for looking into this.
> 
> Cheers,
> Philipp
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/10/20 2:12 AM, Babu Moger wrote:
>> Philipp,
>>   Can you please check if this patch works for you.
>>
>> diff --git a/target/i386/cpu.c b/target/i386/cpu.c
>> index 90ffc5f..e467fee 100644
>> --- a/target/i386/cpu.c
>> +++ b/target/i386/cpu.c
>> @@ -5831,10 +5831,17 @@ void cpu_x86_cpuid(CPUX86State *env, uint32_t
>> index, uint32_t count,
>>          }
>>          *ebx = env->features[FEAT_8000_0008_EBX];
>>          *ecx = 0;
>> -        *edx = 0;
>>          if (cs->nr_cores * cs->nr_threads > 1) {
>> -            *ecx |= (cs->nr_cores * cs->nr_threads) - 1;
>> +            unsigned long max_apicids, bits_required;
>> +
>> +            max_apicids = (cs->nr_cores * cs->nr_threads) - 1;
>> +            if (max_apicids) {
>> +                /* Find out the number of bits to represent all the
>> apicids */
>> +                bits_required = find_last_bit(&max_apicids,
>> BITS_PER_BYTE) + 1;
>> +                *ecx |= bits_required << 12 | max_apicids;
>> +            }
>>          }
>> +        *edx = 0;
>>          break;
>>      case 0x8000000A:
>>          if (env->features[FEAT_8000_0001_ECX] & CPUID_EXT3_SVM) {
>>
>>
>> On 4/9/20 9:00 AM, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>>> On Thu, 09 Apr 2020 12:58:11 -0000
>>> Philipp Eppelt <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Public bug reported:
>>>>
>>>> Setup:
>>>> CPU: AMD EPYC-v2 or host's EPYC cpu
>>>> Linux 64-bit fedora host; Kernel version 5.5.15-200.fc31
>>>> qemu version: self build
>>>> git-head: f3bac27cc1e303e1860cc55b9b6889ba39dee587
>>>> config: Configured with: '../configure' 
>>>> '--target-list=x86_64-softmmu,mips64el-softmmu,mips64-softmmu,mipsel-softmmu,mips-softmmu,i386-softmmu,aarch64-softmmu,arm-softmmu'
>>>>  '--prefix=/opt/qemu-master'
>>>>
>>>> Cmdline: 
>>>> qemu-system-x86_64 -kernel 
>>>> /home/peppelt/code/l4/internal/.build-x86_64/bin/amd64_gen/bootstrap 
>>>> -append "" -initrd "./fiasco/.build-x86_64/fiasco , ... " -serial stdio 
>>>> -nographic -monitor none -nographic -monitor none -cpu EPYC-v2 -m 4G -smp 
>>>> 4 
>>>>
>>>> Issue:
>>>> We are developing an microkernel operating system called L4Re. We recently 
>>>> got an AMD EPYC server for testing and we couldn't execute SMP tests of 
>>>> our system when running Linux + qemu + VM w/ L4Re.
>>>> In fact, the kernel did not recognize any APs at all. On AMD CPUs the 
>>>> kernel checks for the number of cores reported in CPUID leaf 
>>>> 0x8000_0008.ECX[NC] or [ApicIdSize].  [0][1]
>>>>
>>>> The physical machine reports for leaf 0x8000_0008:  EAX: 0x3030 EBX: 
>>>> 0x18cf757 ECX: 0x703f EDX: 0x1000
>>>> The lower four bits of ECX are the [NC] field and all set.
>>>>
>>>> When querying inside qemu with -enable-kvm -cpu host -smp 4 (basically as 
>>>> replacement and addition to the above cmdline) the CPUID leaf shows: EAX: 
>>>> 0x3024, EBX: 0x1001000, ECX: 0x0, EDX: 0x0
>>>> Note, ECX is zero. Indicating that this is no SMP capabale CPU.
>>>>
>>>> I'm debugging it using my local machine and the QEMU provided EPYC-v2
>>>> CPU model and it is reproducible there as well and reports:  EAX:
>>>> 0x3028, EBX: 0x0, ECX: 0x0, EDX: 0x0
>>>>
>>>> I checked other AMD based CPU models (phenom, opteron_g3/g5) and they 
>>>> behave the same. [2] shows the CPUID 0x8000'0008 handling in the QEMU 
>>>> source.
>>>> I believe that behavior here is wrong as ECX[NC] should report the number 
>>>> of cores per processor, as stated in the AMD manual [2] p.584. In my 
>>>> understanding -smp 4 should then lead to ECX[NC] = 0x3.
>>>>
>>>> The following table shows my findings with the -smp option:
>>>> Option | Qemu guest observed ECX value
>>>> -smp 4 | 0x0
>>>> -smp 4,cores=4  | 0x3
>>>> -smp 4,cores=2,thread=2 | 0x3
>>>> -smp 4,cores=4,threads=2 | QEMU boot error: topology false.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I'm asking myself how the terminology of the AMD manual maps to 
>>>> QEMU's -smp option.
>>>> Obviously, nr_cores and nr_threads correspond to the cores and threads 
>>>> options on the cmdline and cores * threads <= 4 (in this example), but 
>>>> what corresponds the X in -smp X to?
>>> I'd say X corresponds to number of logical CPUs.
>>> Depending on presence of other options these are distributed among them in 
>>> magical manner
>>> (see pc_smp_parse() for starters)
>>>
>>>> Querying 0x8000'0008 on the physical processor results in different
>>>> reports than quering QEMU's model as does it with -enable-kvm -cpu host.
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, the ACPI.MADT shows 4 local APICs to be present while the
>>>> CPU leave reports a single core processor.
>>> it matches -smp X as it should be.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> This leads me to the conclusion that CPUID 0x8000'0008.ECX reports the
>>>> wrong number.
>>> CCed author of recent epyc patches who might know how AMD should work 
>>> better than me.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know, if you need more information from my side.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [0] 
>>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkernkonzept%2Ffiasco%2Fblob%2F522ccc5f29ab120213cf02d71328e2b879cbbd19%2Fsrc%2Fkern%2Fia32%2Fkernel_thread-ia32.cpp%23L109&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cbabu.moger%40amd.com%7C57569f7959744399655b08d7dc8e6e24%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637220379083511672&amp;sdata=hcFJzLAVQoIh5IN9CP%2F9cUQNOZoBnpRA6FliJur1wzQ%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>> [1] 
>>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fkernkonzept%2Ffiasco%2Fblob%2F522ccc5f29ab120213cf02d71328e2b879cbbd19%2Fsrc%2Fkern%2Fia32%2Fcpu-ia32.cpp%23L1120&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cbabu.moger%40amd.com%7C57569f7959744399655b08d7dc8e6e24%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637220379083511672&amp;sdata=ANJIbYKbwfq2bDelH%2FRLKnDPIUZc1BwxHspmgxLU7gs%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>> [2] 
>>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fqemu%2Fqemu%2Fblob%2Ff2a8261110c32c4dccd84e774d8dd7a0524e00fb%2Ftarget%2Fi386%2Fcpu.c%23L5835&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cbabu.moger%40amd.com%7C57569f7959744399655b08d7dc8e6e24%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637220379083511672&amp;sdata=oj3mv9e5YOzUsfUjXK44gC8LybyWgMKo8JBIrRR%2BmDA%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>> [3] 
>>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amd.com%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2FTechDocs%2F24594.pdf&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cbabu.moger%40amd.com%7C57569f7959744399655b08d7dc8e6e24%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637220379083511672&amp;sdata=7Yr3J9ihlqSqXCXKN5JJNTByO3NGI%2BGMz2EqBF2Y4hw%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>>
>>>> ** Affects: qemu
>>>>      Importance: Undecided
>>>>          Status: New
>>>>
>>>
>>
> 

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Title:
  AMD CPUID leaf 0x8000'0008 reported number of cores  inconsistent with
  ACPI.MADT

Status in QEMU:
  New

Bug description:
  Setup:
  CPU: AMD EPYC-v2 or host's EPYC cpu
  Linux 64-bit fedora host; Kernel version 5.5.15-200.fc31
  qemu version: self build
  git-head: f3bac27cc1e303e1860cc55b9b6889ba39dee587
  config: Configured with: '../configure' 
'--target-list=x86_64-softmmu,mips64el-softmmu,mips64-softmmu,mipsel-softmmu,mips-softmmu,i386-softmmu,aarch64-softmmu,arm-softmmu'
 '--prefix=/opt/qemu-master'

  Cmdline: 
  qemu-system-x86_64 -kernel 
/home/peppelt/code/l4/internal/.build-x86_64/bin/amd64_gen/bootstrap -append "" 
-initrd "./fiasco/.build-x86_64/fiasco , ... " -serial stdio -nographic 
-monitor none -nographic -monitor none -cpu EPYC-v2 -m 4G -smp 4 

  Issue:
  We are developing an microkernel operating system called L4Re. We recently 
got an AMD EPYC server for testing and we couldn't execute SMP tests of our 
system when running Linux + qemu + VM w/ L4Re.
  In fact, the kernel did not recognize any APs at all. On AMD CPUs the kernel 
checks for the number of cores reported in CPUID leaf 0x8000_0008.ECX[NC] or 
[ApicIdSize].  [0][1]

  The physical machine reports for leaf 0x8000_0008:  EAX: 0x3030 EBX: 
0x18cf757 ECX: 0x703f EDX: 0x1000
  The lower four bits of ECX are the [NC] field and all set.

  When querying inside qemu with -enable-kvm -cpu host -smp 4 (basically as 
replacement and addition to the above cmdline) the CPUID leaf shows: EAX: 
0x3024, EBX: 0x1001000, ECX: 0x0, EDX: 0x0
  Note, ECX is zero. Indicating that this is no SMP capabale CPU.

  I'm debugging it using my local machine and the QEMU provided EPYC-v2
  CPU model and it is reproducible there as well and reports:  EAX:
  0x3028, EBX: 0x0, ECX: 0x0, EDX: 0x0

  I checked other AMD based CPU models (phenom, opteron_g3/g5) and they behave 
the same. [2] shows the CPUID 0x8000'0008 handling in the QEMU source.
  I believe that behavior here is wrong as ECX[NC] should report the number of 
cores per processor, as stated in the AMD manual [2] p.584. In my understanding 
-smp 4 should then lead to ECX[NC] = 0x3.

  The following table shows my findings with the -smp option:
  Option | Qemu guest observed ECX value
  -smp 4 | 0x0
  -smp 4,cores=4  | 0x3
  -smp 4,cores=2,thread=2 | 0x3
  -smp 4,cores=4,threads=2 | QEMU boot error: topology false.

  Now, I'm asking myself how the terminology of the AMD manual maps to QEMU's 
-smp option.
  Obviously, nr_cores and nr_threads correspond to the cores and threads 
options on the cmdline and cores * threads <= 4 (in this example), but what 
corresponds the X in -smp X to?

  Querying 0x8000'0008 on the physical processor results in different
  reports than quering QEMU's model as does it with -enable-kvm -cpu
  host.

  Furthermore, the ACPI.MADT shows 4 local APICs to be present while the
  CPU leave reports a single core processor.

  This leads me to the conclusion that CPUID 0x8000'0008.ECX reports the
  wrong number.

  
  Please let me know, if you need more information from my side.

  
  [0] 
https://github.com/kernkonzept/fiasco/blob/522ccc5f29ab120213cf02d71328e2b879cbbd19/src/kern/ia32/kernel_thread-ia32.cpp#L109
  [1] 
https://github.com/kernkonzept/fiasco/blob/522ccc5f29ab120213cf02d71328e2b879cbbd19/src/kern/ia32/cpu-ia32.cpp#L1120
  [2] 
https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/f2a8261110c32c4dccd84e774d8dd7a0524e00fb/target/i386/cpu.c#L5835
  [3] https://www.amd.com/system/files/TechDocs/24594.pdf

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