Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/2] implement the failover feature for assigned network devices

[si-wei liu]

On 4/5/2019 4:22 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 09:56:29AM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Jens Freimann (address@hidden) wrote:
> > > ping
> > >
> > > FYI: I'm also working on a few related tools to detect driver behaviour when
> > > assigning a MAC to the vf device. Code is at 
> > > https://github.com/jensfr/netfailover_driver_detect
> > Hi Jens,
> >    I've not been following this too uch, but:
> >
> > > regards,
> > > Jens
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 02:44:45PM +0100, Jens Freimann wrote:
> > > > This is another attempt at implementing the host side of the
> > > > net_failover concept
> > > > (https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/networking/net_failover.html)
> > > >
> > > > The general idea is that we have a pair of devices, a vfio-pci and a
> > > > emulated device. Before migration the vfio device is unplugged and data
> > > > flows to the emulated device, on the target side another vfio-pci device
> > > > is plugged in to take over the data-path. In the guest the net_failover
> > > > module will pair net devices with the same MAC address.
> > > >
> > > > * In the first patch the infrastructure for hiding the device is added
> > > >   for the qbus and qdev APIs. A "hidden" boolean is added to the device
> > > >   state and it is set based on a callback to the standby device which
> > > >   registers itself for handling the assessment: "should the primary device
> > > >   be hidden?" by cross validating the ids of the devices.
> > > >
> > > > * In the second patch the virtio-net uses the API to hide the vfio
> > > >   device and unhides it when the feature is acked.
> > > >
> > > > Previous discussion: https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/cover/989098/
> > > >
> > > > To summarize concerns/feedback from previous discussion:
> > > > 1.- guest OS can reject or worse _delay_ unplug by any amount of time.
> > > >   Migration might get stuck for unpredictable time with unclear reason.
> > > >   This approach combines two tricky things, hot/unplug and migration.
> > > >   -> We can surprise-remove the PCI device and in QEMU we can do all
> > > >      necessary rollbacks transparent to management software. Will it be
> > > >      easy, probably not.
> > This sounds 'fun' - bonus cases are things like what happens if the
> > guest gets rebooted somewhere during the process or if it's currently
> > sitting in the bios/grub/etc
> Um, during which process? Guests are gradually fixed to support
> surprise removal well. Part of it is thunderbolt which makes
> it incredibly easy. Yes - bios/grub will need to learn to
> handle this well.
I shared the same concern. As device emulator (QEMU), you know where 
guest would reject or delay - it's even agnostic bios/grub should 
respond to hot plug or not. You don't even know whether guest has the 
support for ACPI hotplug, surprise removal, do you? How QEMU infer what 
is the right disposition by telling apart these guest states?

-Siwei
> > > > 2. PCI devices are a precious ressource. The primary device should never
> > > >   be added to QEMU if it won't be used by guest instead of hiding it in
> > > >   QEMU.
> > > >   -> We only hotplug the device when the standby feature bit was
> > > >      negotiated. We save the device cmdline options until we need it for
> > > >      qdev_device_add()
> > > >      Hiding a device can be a useful concept to model. For example a
> > > >      pci device in a powered-off slot could be marked as hidden until the slot 
> > > > is
> > > >      powered on (mst).
> > Are they really that precious? Personally it's not something I'd worry
> > about.
> >
> > > > 3. Management layer software should handle this. Open Stack already has
> > > >   components/code to handle unplug/replug VFIO devices and metadata to
> > > >   provide to the guest for detecting which devices should be paired.
> > > >   -> An approach that includes all software from firmware to
> > > >      higher-level management software wasn't tried in the last years. This is
> > > >      an attempt to keep it simple and contained in QEMU as much as possible.
> > > > 4. Hotplugging a device and then making it part of a failover setup is
> > > >    not possible
> > > >   -> addressed by extending qdev hotplug functions to check for hidden
> > > >      attribute, so e.g. device_add can be used to plug a device.
> > > >
> > > > There are still some open issues:
> > > >
> > > > Migration: I'm looking for something like a pre-migration hook that I
> > > > could use to unplug the vfio-pci device. I tried with a migration
> > > > notifier but it is called to late, i.e. after migration is aborted due
> > > > to vfio-pci marked unmigrateable. I worked around this by setting it
> > > > to migrateable and used a migration notifier on the virtio-net device.
> > Why not just let this happen at the libvirt level; then you do the
> > hotunplug etc before you actually tell qemu anything about starting a
> > migration?
> If qemu frees up resources (as it does on unplug) then libvirt
> is not guaranteed it can roll the change back on e.g.
> migration failure.
>
> But really another issue is simply that it's a mechanism,
> there's no policy that management needs to decide on.
> Doing it at lowest possible level ensures all
> upper layers benefit with minimal pain.
>
> > > > Commandline: There is a dependency between vfio-pci and virtio-net
> > > > devices. One points to the other via new parameters
> > > > primar=<primary qdev id> and standby='<standby qdev id>'. This means
> > > > that the primary device needs to be specified after standby device on
> > > > the qemu command line. Not sure how to solve this.
> > > >
> > > > Error handling: Patches don't cover all possible error scenarios yet.
> > > >
> > > > I have tested this with a mlx5 NIC and was able to migrate the VM with
> > > > above mentioned workarounds for open problems.
> > > >
> > > > Command line example:
> > > >
> > > > qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 3072 -smp 3 \
> > > >         -machine q35,kernel-irqchip=split -cpu host   \
> > > >         -k fr   \
> > > >         -serial stdio   \
> > > >         -net none \
> > > >         -qmp unix:/tmp/qmp.socket,server,nowait \
> > > >         -monitor telnet:127.0.0.1:5555,server,nowait \
> > > >         -device pcie-root-port,id=root0,multifunction=on,chassis=0,addr=0xa \
> > > >         -device pcie-root-port,id=root1,bus=pcie.0,chassis=1 \
> > > >         -device pcie-root-port,id=root2,bus=pcie.0,chassis=2 \
> > > >         -netdev 
> > > > tap,script=/root/bin/bridge.sh,downscript=no,id=hostnet1,vhost=on \
> > > >         -device 
> > > > virtio-net-pci,netdev=hostnet1,id=net1,mac=52:54:00:6f:55:cc,bus=root2,primary=hostdev0
> > > >  \
> > > >         -device vfio-pci,host=5e:00.2,id=hostdev0,bus=root1,standby=net1 \
> > Yes, that's a bit grim; it's circular dependency on the 'hostdev0' and
> > 'net1' id's.  cc'ing in Markus.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > > >         /root/rhel-guest-image-8.0-1781.x86_64.qcow2
> > > >
> > > > I'm grateful for any remarks or ideas!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > Jens
> > > >
> > > > Sameeh Jubran (2):
> > > >   qdev/qbus: Add hidden device support
> > > >   net/virtio: add failover support
> > > >
> > > > hw/core/qdev.c                 | 27 ++++++++++
> > > > hw/net/virtio-net.c            | 95 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > hw/pci/pci.c                   |  1 +
> > > > include/hw/pci/pci.h           |  2 +
> > > > include/hw/qdev-core.h         |  8 +++
> > > > include/hw/virtio/virtio-net.h |  7 +++
> > > > qdev-monitor.c                 | 48 +++++++++++++++--
> > > > vl.c                           |  7 ++-
> > > > 8 files changed, 189 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > 2.20.1
> > --
> > Dr. David Alan Gilbert / address@hidden / Manchester, UK