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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] QEMU VFIO live migration


From: Zhao Yan
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] QEMU VFIO live migration
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 02:35:09 -0400
User-agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28)

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 07:42:42PM +0800, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > > > >   b) How do we detect if we're migrating from/to the wrong device or
> > > > > version of device?  Or say to a device with older firmware or perhaps
> > > > > a device that has less device memory ?  
> > > > Actually it's still an open for VFIO migration. Need to think about
> > > > whether it's better to check that in libvirt or qemu (like a device 
> > > > magic
> > > > along with verion ?).  
> > 
> > We must keep the hardware generation is the same with one POD of public 
> > cloud
> > providers. But we still think about the live migration between from the the 
> > lower
> > generation of hardware migrated to the higher generation.
> 
> Agreed, lower->higher is the one direction that might make sense to
> support.
> 
> But regardless of that, I think we need to make sure that incompatible
> devices/versions fail directly instead of failing in a subtle, hard to
> debug way. Might be useful to do some initial sanity checks in libvirt
> as well.
> 
> How easy is it to obtain that information in a form that can be
> consumed by higher layers? Can we find out the device type at least?
> What about some kind of revision?
hi Alex and Cornelia
for device compatibility, do you think it's a good idea to use "version"
and "device version" fields?

version field: identify live migration interface's version. it can have a
sort of backward compatibility, like target machine's version >= source
machine's version. something like that.

device_version field consists two parts:
1. vendor id : it takes 32 bits. e.g. 0x8086.
2. vendor proprietary string: it can be any string that a vendor driver
thinks can identify a source device. e.g. pciid + mdev type.
"vendor id" is to avoid overlap of "vendor proprietary string".


struct vfio_device_state_ctl {
     __u32 version;            /* ro */
     __u8 device_version[MAX_DEVICE_VERSION_LEN];            /* ro */
     struct {
        __u32 action; /* GET_BUFFER, SET_BUFFER, IS_COMPATIBLE*/
        ...
     }data;
     ...
 };

Then, an action IS_COMPATIBLE is added to check device compatibility.

The flow to figure out whether a source device is migratable to target device
is like that:
1. in source side's .save_setup, save source device's device_version string
2. in target side's .load_state, load source device's device version string
and write it to data region, and call IS_COMPATIBLE action to ask vendor driver
to check whether the source device is compatible to it.

The advantage of adding an IS_COMPATIBLE action is that, vendor driver can
maintain a compatibility table and decide whether source device is compatible
to target device according to its proprietary table.
In device_version string, vendor driver only has to describe the source
device as elaborately as possible and resorts to vendor driver in target side
to figure out whether they are compatible.

Thanks
Yan






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