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Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default
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Markus Armbruster |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default |
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Thu, 28 Jun 2018 08:55:48 +0200 |
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Peter Xu <address@hidden> writes:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 01:23:07PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Daniel P. Berrangé <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>> > On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:41:38AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> >> Markus Armbruster <address@hidden> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > Markus Armbruster <address@hidden> writes:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I fooled around a bit, and I think there are a few lose ends.
>> >> > [...]
>> >> >> Talking to a QMP monitor that supports OOB:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> $ socat UNIX:test-qmp
>> >> >> READLINE,history=$HOME/.qmp_history,prompt='QMP> '
>> >> >> {"QMP": {"version": {"qemu": {"micro": 50, "minor": 12, "major":
>> >> >> 2}, "package": "v2.12.0-1703-gb909799463"}, "capabilities": ["oob"]}}
>> >> >> QMP> { "execute": "qmp_capabilities", "arguments": { "oob": true }
>> >> >> }
>> >> >> {"error": {"class": "GenericError", "desc": "Parameter 'oob' is
>> >> >> unexpected"}}
>> >> >> QMP> { "execute": "qmp_capabilities", "arguments": { "enable":
>> >> >> ["oob"] } }
>> >> >> {"return": {}}
>> >> >> QMP> { "execute": "query-qmp-schema" }
>> >> >> {"error": {"class": "GenericError", "desc": "Out-Of-Band
>> >> >> capability requires that every command contains an 'id' field"}}
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why does every command require 'id'?
>> >> >
>> >> > I found one reason: event COMMAND_DROPPED wants it. Any other reason?
>> >> >
>> >> > [...]
>> >>
>> >> Apropos COMMAND_DROPPED: we send an event rather than an error response
>> >> because we may send it out-of-order. Makes sense.
>> >>
>> >> However, broadcasting it to all monitors doesn't make sense. We could
>> >> use a way to send an event to just one monitor.
>
> True.
>
> (Sorry for the late responses; I was on Linuxcon China in the past few
> days)
No need to be sorry :)
>> >
>> > Worse than that - broadcasting to all monitors is categorically broken.
>> > Different monitors make use the same "id" formatting scheme, so if you
>> > broadcast COMMAND_DROPPED to a different monitor you might have clashing
>> > "id" and thus incorrectly tell a client its command was dropped when in
>> > fact it was processed. You'd have to be fairly unlucky in timing, but
>> > it could happen.
>>
>> Right. Must fix bug.
>
> Even more true.
>
>>
>> I'm glad I went over this one more time, and in public!
>
> I had a glance at current qmp-spec, it seems that we don't have any
> restriction currently on "we must send events to all the monitors".
> Does it mean that we should be free to have per-monitor events
> starting from this event?
Changing an existing event from broadcast to unicast is an observable
change in existing behavior. Compatibility break unless we can show
nobody can use / uses the observation.
Creating a new event is not a compatibility break by itself[*],
regardless of broadcast vs. unicast.
> My current plan is that I can touch up scripts/qapi/events.py and
> related stuff to allow QMPEventFuncEmit to take a monitor parameter,
> then we pass in NULL when we want to send the event to all monitors.
>
> Would that work?
Think so.
Alternatively, a pair of functions:
void qapi_event_bcast_EVENT(... event params ..., Error **errp);
void qapi_event_send_EVENT(Monitor *mon, ... event params ..., Error
**errp);
Slightly more compact in the broadcast case, might be a bit easier to
read.
[*] In the case of COMMAND_DROPPED, the compatibility break is dropping
commands (the event's trigger), caused by the command queuing feature.
That's why command queuing has to be opt-in. Details discussed
elsewhere in this thread.
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 7/7] Revert "tests: Add parameter to qtest_init_without_qmp_handshake", (continued)
- [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 7/7] Revert "tests: Add parameter to qtest_init_without_qmp_handshake", Peter Xu, 2018/06/20
- [Qemu-devel] (no subject), Markus Armbruster, 2018/06/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Markus Armbruster, 2018/06/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Markus Armbruster, 2018/06/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Daniel P . Berrangé, 2018/06/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Markus Armbruster, 2018/06/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Peter Xu, 2018/06/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Eric Blake, 2018/06/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Markus Armbruster, 2018/06/28
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Peter Xu, 2018/06/29
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default,
Markus Armbruster <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Eric Blake, 2018/06/28
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Peter Xu, 2018/06/29
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Markus Armbruster, 2018/06/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Daniel P . Berrangé, 2018/06/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Markus Armbruster, 2018/06/28
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Peter Xu, 2018/06/27
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Markus Armbruster, 2018/06/28
- Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Peter Xu, 2018/06/29
Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default, Markus Armbruster, 2018/06/27