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Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 03/19] sysbus: Set user_creatable=false by default


From: Eduardo Habkost
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 03/19] sysbus: Set user_creatable=false by default on TYPE_SYS_BUS_DEVICE
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 17:10:26 -0300
User-agent: Mutt/1.7.1 (2016-10-04)

On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 08:49:16PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 1 April 2017 at 01:46, Eduardo Habkost <address@hidden> wrote:
> > commit 33cd52b5d7b9adfd009e95f07e6c64dd88ae2a31 unset
> > cannot_instantiate_with_device_add_yet in TYPE_SYSBUS, making
> > all kinds of untested devices available to -device and
> > device_add.
> >
> > The problem with that is: setting has_dynamic_sysbus on a
> > machine-type lets it accept all the 288 sysbus device types we
> > have in QEMU, and most of them were never meant to be used with
> > -device. That's a lot of untested code.
> >
> > Fortunately today we have just a few has_dynamic_sysbus=1
> > machines: virt, pc-q35-*, ppce500, and spapr.
> >
> > virt, ppce500, and spapr have extra checks to ensure just a few
> > device types can be instantiated:
> >
> > * virt supports only TYPE_VFIO_CALXEDA_XGMAC, TYPE_VFIO_AMD_XGBE.
> > * ppce500 supports only TYPE_ETSEC_COMMON.
> > * spapr supports only TYPE_SPAPR_PCI_HOST_BRIDGE.
> >
> > q35 has no code to block unsupported sysbus devices, however, and
> > accepts all device types. Fortunately, only the following 20
> > device types are compiled into the qemu-system-x86_64 and
> > qemu-system-i386 binaries:
> >
> > * allwinner-ahci
> > * amd-iommu
> > * cfi.pflash01
> > * esp
> > * fw_cfg_io
> > * fw_cfg_mem
> > * generic-sdhci
> > * hpet
> > * intel-iommu
> > * ioapic
> > * isabus-bridge
> > * kvmclock
> > * kvm-ioapic
> > * kvmvapic
> > * SUNW,fdtwo
> > * sysbus-ahci
> > * sysbus-fdc
> > * sysbus-ohci
> > * unimplemented-device
> > * virtio-mmio
> >
> > Instead of requiring each machine-type with has_dynamic_sysbus=1
> > to implement its own mechanism to block unsupported devices, we
> > can use the user_creatable flag to ensure we won't let the user
> > plug anything that will never work.
> 
> How does this work? Which devices can be dynamically
> plugged is machine dependent. You can't dynamically-plug
> an intel-iommu on the ARM virt board, and you can't
> dynamically-plug the vfio-calxeda-xgmac on the spapr
> board, and so on. So I don't see how we can just have
> a flag on the device itself that controls whether
> it can be dynamically plugged.
> 
> So I'm definitely coming around to the opinion that
> it's just a bug in the q35 board that it doesn't have
> any device whitelisting, and we should fix that.

OK, let's assume q35 must implement a whitelist:

To build that whitelist, we need to be able to know what should
be in the whitelist, or not. And nobody knew for sure what was
user-creatable in q35 by accident, and what was really supposed
to be user-creatable in q35. See the "q35 and sysbus devices"
thread I started ~2 weeks ago.

Building a q35 whitelist will be much easier if make
sys-bus-devices non-user-creatable by default.

-- 
Eduardo



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