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Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] Add Mediated device support[was: Add

From: Alex Williamson
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] Add Mediated device support[was: Add vGPU support]
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 08:29:26 -0600

On Tue, 31 May 2016 10:29:10 +0800
Jike Song <address@hidden> wrote:

> On 05/28/2016 10:56 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 May 2016 22:43:54 +0000
> > "Tian, Kevin" <address@hidden> wrote:
> >   
> >>
> >> My impression was that you don't like hypervisor specific thing in VFIO,
> >> which makes it a bit tricky to accomplish those tasks in kernel. If we 
> >> can add Xen specific logic directly in VFIO (like vfio-iommu-xen you 
> >> mentioned), the whole thing would be easier.  
> > 
> > If vfio is hosted in dom0, then Xen is the platform and we need to
> > interact with the hypervisor to manage the iommu.  That said, there are
> > aspects of vfio that do not seem to map well to a hypervisor managed
> > iommu or a Xen-like hypervisor.  For instance, how does dom0 manage
> > iommu groups and what's the distinction of using vfio to manage a
> > userspace driver in dom0 versus managing a device for another domain.
> > In the case of kvm, vfio has no dependency on kvm, there is some minor
> > interaction, but we're not running on kvm and it's not appropriate to
> > use vfio as a gateway to interact with a hypervisor that may or may not
> > exist.  Thanks,  
> Hi Alex,
> Beyond iommu, there are other aspects vfio need to interact with Xen?
> e.g. to pass-through MMIO, one have to call hypercalls to establish EPT
> mappings.

If it's part of running on a Xen platform and not trying to interact
with a VM in ways that are out of scope for vfio, I might be open to
it, I'd need to see a proposal.  This also goes back to my question of
how does vfio know whether it's configuring a device for a guest driver
or a guest VM, with kvm these are one and the same.  Thanks,


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