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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] trace: [tcg] Allow tracing guest events i
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Lluís Vilanova |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/12] trace: [tcg] Allow tracing guest events in TCG-generated code |
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Thu, 06 Feb 2014 20:26:18 +0100 |
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Richard Henderson writes:
> On 02/04/2014 12:33 PM, Lluís Vilanova wrote:
>> Richard Henderson writes:
>>
>>> On 01/31/2014 08:09 AM, Lluís Vilanova wrote:
>>>> Adds the base ability to specify which events in the "trace-events" file
>>>> may be
>>>> used to trace guest activity in the TCG code (using the "tcg" event
>>>> propery).
>>>>
>>>> Such events generate an extra set of tracing functions that can be called
>>>> during
>>>> TCG code generation and will automatically redirect a call to the
>>>> appropriate
>>>> backend-dependent tracing functions when the guest code is executed.
>>>>
>>>> Files generating guest code (TCG) must include "trace-tcg.h". Files
>>>> declaring
>>>> per-target helpers ("${target}/helper.h") must include
>>>> "trace/generated-helpers.h".
>>>>
>>>> The flow of the generated routines is:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [At translation time]
>>>>
>>>> * trace_${name}_tcg(bool, TCGv)
>>>> Declared: "trace/generated-tcg-tracers.h"
>>>> Defined : "trace/generated-tcg-tracers.h"
>>>>
>>>> * gen_helper_trace_${name}_tcg(bool, TCGv)
>>>> Declared: "trace/generated-helpers.h"
>>>> Defined : "trace/generated-helpers.h"
>>>>
>>>> Automatically transforms all the arguments and allocates them into the
>>>> appropriate TCG temporary values (which are also freed). Provides a more
>>>> streamlined interface by allowing events in "trace-events" to take a mix of
>>>> tracing-supported types and TCG types.
>>>>
>>>> * gen_helper_trace_${name}_tcg_proxy(TCGi32, TCGv)
>>>> Declared: "trace/generated-helpers.h"
>>>> Defined : "trace/generated-helpers.h" (using helper machinery)
>>>>
>>>> The actual TCG helper function, created using QEMU's TCG helper machinery.
>>
>>> I suppose I have no major objection to the feature, although frankly it's
>>> not especially exciting. I can't really imagine ever wanting to bulk trace
>>> all of the helpers. Tracing specific helpers on a target-by-target basis,
>>> sure. But that can be done just as easily as adding tracing code to any
>>> other bit of C.
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand this comment. The patch does not add helper tracing
>> capabilities, but generates a "trace_foo_tcg" routine that can be called
>> during
>> TCG code generation, and will call "trace_foo" when that TCG code is
>> executed.
> Ah, see, I told you I was probably reading the patches wrong. With all the
> helpers.h changes, I thought this was somehow related to tracing the existing
> helpers. But the existance of trace_foo_tcg is triggered by the trace-events
> file?
Yes, defining "tcg foo" in the "trace-events" file will generate the functions
described in this series.
>>> I would strongly suggest this is backward. One should perform the check for
>>> the tracepoint being enabled at translation time before emitting the call to
>>> the helper in the first place.
>>
>> Right, the thing is that dynamically enabling/disabling such events will not
>> immediately show up in the trace if I do the check at translation time
>> (trace_foo_tcg), since QEMU will execute the cached TCG translations. I see
>> the
>> following solutions to ensure traces are accurate:
>>
>> * Delay the check until execution time.
>>
>> * Check at translation time; flush translation cache when the tracing state
>> of
>> a TCG event changes.
>>
>> * Check at translation time; use multiple translation caches, one for each
>> possible tracing state of all the TCG-enabled events.
>>
>> This series implements the first approach, since it's correct and much
>> simpler.
>>
>> Other patches I did not send implement the third approach, which is quite
>> efficient if one is dynamically switching the tracing state while executing
>> mostly-cached code (e.g., profiling the accesses).
> How often do events change state? My guess is exceedingly rarely.
> And by "rare" I mean something well under once per minute. ;-)
> At which point, option 2 would be the best bet, I think.
Right. For the 3rd option I was also thinking about having per-vCPU tracing
states (in the case of guest events), so that you can trace separate events
depending on the vCPU.
Which reminds me, I should add a vCPU pointer to the "guest_vmem" event, since
otherwise you cannot differentiate accesses among different vCPUs.
>> I can wait for a later series to send the third option, or even implement the
>> second, but I just wanted to keep this one as simple as possible. Also,
>> implementing any of these two last approaches would provide minimal
>> overheads on
>> builds that have such events enabled at compile time.
> Fair enough.
Thanks,
Lluis
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