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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PULL 14/28] exec: make address spaces 64-bit wide


From: Avi Kivity
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PULL 14/28] exec: make address spaces 64-bit wide
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 12:24:24 +0200
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On 01/14/2014 12:48 AM, Alex Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 22:48 +0100, Alexander Graf wrote:
Am 13.01.2014 um 22:39 schrieb Alex Williamson <address@hidden>:

On Sun, 2014-01-12 at 16:03 +0100, Alexander Graf wrote:
On 12.01.2014, at 08:54, Michael S. Tsirkin <address@hidden> wrote:

On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 08:31:36AM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2014-01-10 at 14:55 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 03:42:22PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 23:56 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 12:03:26PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 11:47 -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 20:00 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 10:24:47AM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 20:30 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
From: Paolo Bonzini <address@hidden>

As an alternative to commit 818f86b (exec: limit system memory
size, 2013-11-04) let's just make all address spaces 64-bit wide.
This eliminates problems with phys_page_find ignoring bits above
TARGET_PHYS_ADDR_SPACE_BITS and address_space_translate_internal
consequently messing up the computations.

In Luiz's reported crash, at startup gdb attempts to read from address
0xffffffffffffffe6 to 0xffffffffffffffff inclusive.  The region it gets
is the newly introduced master abort region, which is as big as the PCI
address space (see pci_bus_init).  Due to a typo that's only 2^63-1,
not 2^64.  But we get it anyway because phys_page_find ignores the upper
bits of the physical address.  In address_space_translate_internal then

   diff = int128_sub(section->mr->size, int128_make64(addr));
   *plen = int128_get64(int128_min(diff, int128_make64(*plen)));

diff becomes negative, and int128_get64 booms.

The size of the PCI address space region should be fixed anyway.

Reported-by: Luiz Capitulino <address@hidden>
Signed-off-by: Paolo Bonzini <address@hidden>
Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <address@hidden>
---
exec.c | 8 ++------
1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/exec.c b/exec.c
index 7e5ce93..f907f5f 100644
--- a/exec.c
+++ b/exec.c
@@ -94,7 +94,7 @@ struct PhysPageEntry {
#define PHYS_MAP_NODE_NIL (((uint32_t)~0) >> 6)

/* Size of the L2 (and L3, etc) page tables.  */
-#define ADDR_SPACE_BITS TARGET_PHYS_ADDR_SPACE_BITS
+#define ADDR_SPACE_BITS 64

#define P_L2_BITS 10
#define P_L2_SIZE (1 << P_L2_BITS)
@@ -1861,11 +1861,7 @@ static void memory_map_init(void)
{
    system_memory = g_malloc(sizeof(*system_memory));

-    assert(ADDR_SPACE_BITS <= 64);
-
-    memory_region_init(system_memory, NULL, "system",
-                       ADDR_SPACE_BITS == 64 ?
-                       UINT64_MAX : (0x1ULL << ADDR_SPACE_BITS));
+    memory_region_init(system_memory, NULL, "system", UINT64_MAX);
    address_space_init(&address_space_memory, system_memory, "memory");

    system_io = g_malloc(sizeof(*system_io));
This seems to have some unexpected consequences around sizing 64bit PCI
BARs that I'm not sure how to handle.
BARs are often disabled during sizing. Maybe you
don't detect BAR being disabled?
See the trace below, the BARs are not disabled.  QEMU pci-core is doing
the sizing an memory region updates for the BARs, vfio is just a
pass-through here.
Sorry, not in the trace below, but yes the sizing seems to be happening
while I/O & memory are enabled int he command register.  Thanks,

Alex
OK then from QEMU POV this BAR value is not special at all.
Unfortunately

After this patch I get vfio
traces like this:

vfio: vfio_pci_read_config(0000:01:10.0, @0x10, len=0x4) febe0004
(save lower 32bits of BAR)
vfio: vfio_pci_write_config(0000:01:10.0, @0x10, 0xffffffff, len=0x4)
(write mask to BAR)
vfio: region_del febe0000 - febe3fff
(memory region gets unmapped)
vfio: vfio_pci_read_config(0000:01:10.0, @0x10, len=0x4) ffffc004
(read size mask)
vfio: vfio_pci_write_config(0000:01:10.0, @0x10, 0xfebe0004, len=0x4)
(restore BAR)
vfio: region_add febe0000 - febe3fff [0x7fcf3654d000]
(memory region re-mapped)
vfio: vfio_pci_read_config(0000:01:10.0, @0x14, len=0x4) 0
(save upper 32bits of BAR)
vfio: vfio_pci_write_config(0000:01:10.0, @0x14, 0xffffffff, len=0x4)
(write mask to BAR)
vfio: region_del febe0000 - febe3fff
(memory region gets unmapped)
vfio: region_add fffffffffebe0000 - fffffffffebe3fff [0x7fcf3654d000]
(memory region gets re-mapped with new address)
qemu-system-x86_64: vfio_dma_map(0x7fcf38861710, 0xfffffffffebe0000, 0x4000, 
0x7fcf3654d000) = -14 (Bad address)
(iommu barfs because it can only handle 48bit physical addresses)
Why are you trying to program BAR addresses for dma in the iommu?
Two reasons, first I can't tell the difference between RAM and MMIO.
Why can't you? Generally memory core let you find out easily.
My MemoryListener is setup for &address_space_memory and I then filter
out anything that's not memory_region_is_ram().  This still gets
through, so how do I easily find out?

But in this case it's vfio device itself that is sized so for sure you
know it's MMIO.
How so?  I have a MemoryListener as described above and pass everything
through to the IOMMU.  I suppose I could look through all the
VFIODevices and check if the MemoryRegion matches, but that seems really
ugly.

Maybe you will have same issue if there's another device with a 64 bit
bar though, like ivshmem?
Perhaps, I suspect I'll see anything that registers their BAR
MemoryRegion from memory_region_init_ram or memory_region_init_ram_ptr.
Must be a 64 bit BAR to trigger the issue though.

Second, it enables peer-to-peer DMA between devices, which is something
that we might be able to take advantage of with GPU passthrough.

Prior to this change, there was no re-map with the fffffffffebe0000
address, presumably because it was beyond the address space of the PCI
window.  This address is clearly not in a PCI MMIO space, so why are we
allowing it to be realized in the system address space at this location?
Thanks,

Alex
Why do you think it is not in PCI MMIO space?
True, CPU can't access this address but other pci devices can.
What happens on real hardware when an address like this is programmed to
a device?  The CPU doesn't have the physical bits to access it.  I have
serious doubts that another PCI device would be able to access it
either.  Maybe in some limited scenario where the devices are on the
same conventional PCI bus.  In the typical case, PCI addresses are
always limited by some kind of aperture, whether that's explicit in
bridge windows or implicit in hardware design (and perhaps made explicit
in ACPI).  Even if I wanted to filter these out as noise in vfio, how
would I do it in a way that still allows real 64bit MMIO to be
programmed.  PCI has this knowledge, I hope.  VFIO doesn't.  Thanks,

Alex
AFAIK PCI doesn't have that knowledge as such. PCI spec is explicit that
full 64 bit addresses must be allowed and hardware validation
test suites normally check that it actually does work
if it happens.
Sure, PCI devices themselves, but the chipset typically has defined
routing, that's more what I'm referring to.  There are generally only
fixed address windows for RAM vs MMIO.
The physical chipset? Likely - in the presence of IOMMU.
Without that, devices can talk to each other without going
through chipset, and bridge spec is very explicit that
full 64 bit addressing must be supported.

So as long as we don't emulate an IOMMU,
guest will normally think it's okay to use any address.

Yes, if there's a bridge somewhere on the path that bridge's
windows would protect you, but pci already does this filtering:
if you see this address in the memory map this means
your virtual device is on root bus.

So I think it's the other way around: if VFIO requires specific
address ranges to be assigned to devices, it should give this
info to qemu and qemu can give this to guest.
Then anything outside that range can be ignored by VFIO.
Then we get into deficiencies in the IOMMU API and maybe VFIO.  There's
currently no way to find out the address width of the IOMMU.  We've been
getting by because it's safely close enough to the CPU address width to
not be a concern until we start exposing things at the top of the 64bit
address space.  Maybe I can safely ignore anything above
TARGET_PHYS_ADDR_SPACE_BITS for now.  Thanks,

Alex
I think it's not related to target CPU at all - it's a host limitation.
So just make up your own constant, maybe depending on host architecture.
Long term add an ioctl to query it.
It's a hardware limitation which I'd imagine has some loose ties to the
physical address bits of the CPU.

Also, we can add a fwcfg interface to tell bios that it should avoid
placing BARs above some address.
That doesn't help this case, it's a spurious mapping caused by sizing
the BARs with them enabled.  We may still want such a thing to feed into
building ACPI tables though.
Well the point is that if you want BIOS to avoid
specific addresses, you need to tell it what to avoid.
But neither BIOS nor ACPI actually cover the range above
2^48 ATM so it's not a high priority.

Since it's a vfio limitation I think it should be a vfio API, along the
lines of vfio_get_addr_space_bits(void).
(Is this true btw? legacy assignment doesn't have this problem?)
It's an IOMMU hardware limitation, legacy assignment has the same
problem.  It looks like legacy will abort() in QEMU for the failed
mapping and I'm planning to tighten vfio to also kill the VM for failed
mappings.  In the short term, I think I'll ignore any mappings above
TARGET_PHYS_ADDR_SPACE_BITS,
That seems very wrong. It will still fail on an x86 host if we are
emulating a CPU with full 64 bit addressing. The limitation is on the
host side there's no real reason to tie it to the target.
I doubt vfio would be the only thing broken in that case.

long term vfio already has an IOMMU info
ioctl that we could use to return this information, but we'll need to
figure out how to get it out of the IOMMU driver first.
Thanks,

Alex
Short term, just assume 48 bits on x86.
I hate to pick an arbitrary value since we have a very specific mapping
we're trying to avoid.  Perhaps a better option is to skip anything
where:

        MemoryRegionSection.offset_within_address_space >
        ~MemoryRegionSection.offset_within_address_space

We need to figure out what's the limitation on ppc and arm -
maybe there's none and it can address full 64 bit range.
IIUC on PPC and ARM you always have BAR windows where things can get mapped 
into. Unlike x86 where the full phyiscal address range can be overlayed by BARs.

Or did I misunderstand the question?
Sounds right, if either BAR mappings outside the window will not be
realized in the memory space or the IOMMU has a full 64bit address
space, there's no problem.  Here we have an intermediate step in the BAR
sizing producing a stray mapping that the IOMMU hardware can't handle.
Even if we could handle it, it's not clear that we want to.  On AMD-Vi
the IOMMU pages tables can grow to 6-levels deep.  A stray mapping like
this then causes space and time overhead until the tables are pruned
back down.  Thanks,
I thought sizing is hard defined as a set to
-1? Can't we check for that one special case and treat it as "not mapped, but tell 
the guest the size in config space"?
PCI doesn't want to handle this as anything special to differentiate a
sizing mask from a valid BAR address.  I agree though, I'd prefer to
never see a spurious address like this in my MemoryListener.



Can't you just ignore regions that cannot be mapped? Oh, and teach the bios and/or linux to disable memory access while sizing.




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