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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] tpm: Provide a software vTPM


From: Anthony Liguori
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] tpm: Provide a software vTPM
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:50:37 -0800

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Corey Bryant <address@hidden> wrote:
> This patch series provides support for a software Trusted Platform
> Module (otherwise known as a vTPM).  This support is provided via a
> new backend that works with the existing QEMU tpm-tis front end.

We do device emulation within QEMU.  This is fundamentally what QEMU does.

Why should we link against an external library instead of providing
TPM emulation within QEMU itself?  What makes TPM so special here?

I know the answer to these questions of course.  There isn't a good
reason but there exists vTPM as an external tool for historical
reasons.  I don't think that's a good justification for doing this.
libtpms has had no review by anyone and does not have a community
around it.  Once we link against it, we are responsible for resolving
any security issue around it and fixing any bug within it.

That's essentially asking us to merge 70k+ LOCS without any review or
validation ahead of time.  That's an unreasonable request.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> With this patch series, multiple guests can run with their own vTPM.
> In comparison, the existing passthrough vTPM does not allow this
> because the host TPM cannot be shared.
>
> Note: There is seabios code that is not yet upstream that is
> required to run with this support.  It provides support such as
> initialization, ACPI table updates, and menu updates.  If anyone
> would like to run with that support, let me know and I can send you
> a bios.bin.
>
> Following is a sample command line:
>
> qemu-img create -f qcow2 /home/qemu/images/nvram.qcow2 500K
>
> qemu-system-x86_64 ... \
> -drive file=/home/qemu/images/nvram.qcow2,if=none,id=nvram0-0-0,format=qcow2 \
> -device tpm-tis,tpmdev=tpm-tpm0,id=tpm0 \
> -tpmdev libtpms,id=tpm-tpm0,nvram=nvram0-0-0
>
> Corey Bryant (4):
>   tpm: Add TPM NVRAM implementation
>   tpm: Share tpm_write_fatal_error_response
>   tpm: QMP/HMP support for libtpms TPM backend
>   tpm: Provide libtpms software TPM backend
>
>  configure                    |   24 ++
>  hmp.c                        |    5 +
>  hw/tpm/Makefile.objs         |    2 +
>  hw/tpm/tpm_libtpms.c         |  885 
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  hw/tpm/tpm_nvram.c           |  340 ++++++++++++++++
>  hw/tpm/tpm_nvram.h           |   25 ++
>  hw/tpm/tpm_passthrough.c     |   14 -
>  hw/tpm/tpm_tis.h             |    1 +
>  include/sysemu/tpm_backend.h |    3 +
>  qapi-schema.json             |   18 +-
>  qemu-options.hx              |   31 ++-
>  tpm.c                        |   28 ++-
>  12 files changed, 1357 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 hw/tpm/tpm_libtpms.c
>  create mode 100644 hw/tpm/tpm_nvram.c
>  create mode 100644 hw/tpm/tpm_nvram.h
>
>



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