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Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset
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Paolo Bonzini |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset |
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Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:30:56 -0400 |
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Il 13/06/2013 07:56, Anthony Liguori ha scritto:
> Markus Armbruster <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> Peter Lieven <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> On 13.06.2013 10:40, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 08:09:09AM +0200, Peter Lieven wrote:
>>>>> I was thinking if it would be a good idea to zeroize all memory
>>>>> resources on system reset and
>>>>> madvise dontneed them afterwards. This would avoid system reset
>>>>> attacks in case the attacker
>>>>> has only access to the console of a vServer but not on the physical
>>>>> host and it would shrink
>>>>> RSS size of the vServer siginificantly.
>>>> I wonder if you'll hit weird OS installers or PXE clients that rely on
>>>> stashing stuff in memory across reset.
>>> One point:
>>> Wouldn't a memory test which some systems do at startup break these as well?
>>
>> Systems that distinguish between warm and cold boot (such as PCs)
>> generally run POST only on cold boot.
>>
>> I'm not saying triggering warm reboot and expecting memory contents to
>> survive is a good idea, but it has been done.
>
> Doesn't kexec do a warm reboot stashing the new kernel somewhere in
> memory?
No, it undoes most of the hardware setup and jumps to the new kernel.
It never goes through the BIOS.
Paolo
- [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Peter Lieven, 2013/06/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Stefan Hajnoczi, 2013/06/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Peter Lieven, 2013/06/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Peter Lieven, 2013/06/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Markus Armbruster, 2013/06/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Anthony Liguori, 2013/06/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset,
Paolo Bonzini <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Christian Borntraeger, 2013/06/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Alexander Graf, 2013/06/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Paolo Bonzini, 2013/06/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Peter Lieven, 2013/06/17
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, H. Peter Anvin, 2013/06/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Peter Lieven, 2013/06/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Markus Armbruster, 2013/06/13
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Peter Lieven, 2013/06/13
Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] sanitize memory on system reset, Andreas Färber, 2013/06/13