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Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule?
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Anthony Liguori |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule? |
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Sun, 27 Jan 2013 08:34:01 -0600 |
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Alexander Graf <address@hidden> writes:
> Am 26.01.2013 um 19:13 schrieb Peter Crosthwaite <address@hidden>:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Peter Maydell <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> On 26 January 2013 10:11, Andreas Färber <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> You forget that a "distro" is pretty much a Linux concept. There is no
>>>> such thing on W32 (openSUSE doesn't package it for MinGW either), and on
>>>> Darwin the various competing ports systems suck IMO.
>>>>
>>>> On OpenBSD there's a "dtc" port but we'd need to assure it's installed
>>>> on the build bots before we mandate it, same for the Linux build bots.
>>>
>>> Even on Linux having a libfdt that's available to compile against
>>> is a comparatively recent thing -- it was only early 2012 IIRC that
>>> Debian/Ubuntu got this, for instance.
>>>
>>>> I'm not objecting to mandating it but would like to propose to only
>>>> mandate it for the targets that need it. I.e., if no libfdt available,
>>>> don't install microblaze and ppc softmmu targets. That would still allow
>>>> the average user to emulate x86 or arm without hassles, and it should
>>>> not be needed for linux-user.
>>
>> Im not proposing to mandate it at all initially. Just setup the
>> configurator such that if you --enable-fdt it gives you an option to
>> submodule it rather than just hard failing at configure time. Its
>> annoying to have to provide instructions for all the different distros
>> for apt/yum or build from source for this component. A "normal" build
>> of QEMU would be unaffected.
>>
>>>
>>> I'm leaning towards making FDT compulsory for ARM too: the kernel
>>> is moving strongly in this direction and it is just annoying to
>>> get a qemu that gives up when it encounters an FDT. The only reason
>>> I haven't so far is just that availability in distros/OSes is too
>>> spotty. An in-tree libfdt would solve that.
>>>
>>
>> +1. The context of this for us is ARM as well not just out
>> Microblaze/PPC targets. Zynq with no FDT is of limited use and will
>> puke for anyone trying to boot Zynq Linux.
>>
>>>> The pixman submodule has not been working well for me, it's not a
>>>> universally working solution to be copied either.
>>>
>>> OTOH libfdt is:
>>> * less than 4000 lines of code, half of which is the public .h file
>>> * specifically intended by upstream to be taken and dropped into
>>> other peoples' projects (this is how you have to use it if you're
>>> a bootloader, for instance)
>>> * built by just having your usual make process compile and link
>>> in an extra seven .c files
>>>
>>> I don't know if we'd use a git submodule though -- we only want
>>> a single subdir of upstream's git repo, not the whole thing.
>>
>> I kinda want to take a "better than nothin" philosophy here. If the
>> upstream DTC is broken then you can still fall back to your distros.
>> With the proposal as it stands, your distro FDT will take precedent
>> over the submodule flow anyway. 4000 Lines is a pritty cheap download.
>
> Fair enough.
>
> Anthony, could you please create a mirror of dtc on git.qemu.org so we
> can create a submodule against it.
Done.
http://git.qemu.org/?p=dtc.git;a=tree
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> Alex
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter
>>
>>>
>>> -- PMM
>>>
- [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule?, Peter Crosthwaite, 2013/01/25
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule?, Alexander Graf, 2013/01/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule?, Andreas Färber, 2013/01/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule?, Peter Maydell, 2013/01/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule?, Peter Crosthwaite, 2013/01/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule?, Alexander Graf, 2013/01/26
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule?,
Anthony Liguori <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule?, Alexander Graf, 2013/01/28
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule?, Peter Maydell, 2013/01/28
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule?, Alexander Graf, 2013/01/28
Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] FDT as a git submodule?, Gerd Hoffmann, 2013/01/28