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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked
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Gleb Natapov |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked |
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Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:25:52 +0200 |
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:16:05PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 03/14/2012 03:14 PM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:07:46PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > > On 03/14/2012 01:11 PM, Wen Congyang wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think we want to use the driver. Instead, have a small piece
> > > > > of
> > > > > code that resets the device and pushes out a string (the panic
> > > > > message?)
> > > > > without any interrupts etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's still going to be less reliable than a hypercall, I agree.
> > > >
> > > > Do you still want to use complicated and less reliable way?
> > >
> > > Are you willing to try it out and see how complicated it really is?
> > >
> > > While it's more complicated, it's also more flexible. You can
> > > communicate the panic message, whether the guest is attempting a kdump
> > > and its own recovery or whether it wants the host to do it, etc., you
> > > can communicate less severe failures like oopses.
> > >
> > hypercall can take arguments to achieve the same.
>
> It has to be designed in advance; and every time we notice something's
> missing we have to update the host kernel.
>
We and in the designed stage now. Not to late to design something flexible
:) Panic hypercall can take GPA of a buffer where host puts panic info
as a parameter. This buffer can be read by QEMU and passed to management.
> > > > I think the other ones prefer to touch the hypervisor.
> > >
> > > I understand the sentiment. Your patches are simple and easy. But my
> > > feeling is that the kernel has become too complicated already and I'm
> > > looking for ways to limit changes.
> > >
> > Using virtio-serial will not reduce kernel complexity. Quite contrary
> > since code that will use virtio-serial will be more complicated.
>
> The host kernel is unmodified though.
>
Yes, this is trade-off between complexity in hypervisor and a guest
kernel. But in the end we use the same kernel for both.
--
Gleb.
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, (continued)
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Wen Congyang, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Gleb Natapov, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Wen Congyang, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Gleb Natapov, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked,
Gleb Natapov <=
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Eric Northup, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Wen Congyang, 2012/03/15
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Gleb Natapov, 2012/03/15
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Jan Kiszka, 2012/03/15
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Avi Kivity, 2012/03/15
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Wen Congyang, 2012/03/16
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Anthony Liguori, 2012/03/21
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Wen Congyang, 2012/03/22
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Eric Northup, 2012/03/14
- Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] kvm: notify host when guest panicked, Amit Shah, 2012/03/14