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[Qemu-devel] Re: sparc scsi/iommu/dma (was NMI handling)


From: Blue Swirl
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: sparc scsi/iommu/dma (was NMI handling)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:00:47 +0000

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Artyom Tarasenko
<address@hidden> wrote:
> 2010/7/27 Blue Swirl <address@hidden>:
>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Artyom Tarasenko
>> <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> 2010/7/26 Blue Swirl <address@hidden>:
>>>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Artyom Tarasenko
>>>> <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>> 2010/6/21 Artyom Tarasenko <address@hidden>:
>>>>>> 2010/5/25 Blue Swirl <address@hidden>:
>>>>>>>>> About bugs, IIRC NetBSD 3.x crash could be related to IOMMU.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What does indicate it? It happens where the disk sizes are normally
>>>>>>>> reported, so it could be a scsi/dma/irq/fpu issue as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IIRC the DVMA address was 0xfc004000, but the mapped entries were for
>>>>>>> 0xfc000000 to 0xfc003fff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Under OpenBIOS. And even less with OBP, and much less if the network
>>>>> card is disabled.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like we have multiple problems here: they start with
>>>>>> 0xfc004000 access (which can theoretically be expected on the real
>>>>>> hardware too) as you pointed out, but what happens afterwards is
>>>>>> strange too:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - In the current qemu implementation we have a screaming NMI which
>>>>>> NetBSD can not clear. This happens cause NMI in qemu is literally
>>>>>> non-maskable, while on the real hardware it can be masked with the
>>>>>> 'mask all' flag. I'll send a patch for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - with the masking patch, the NMI is not screaming but still is
>>>>>> percepted as spurious. This may be ok if NetBSD (1.6-3.1) doesn't have
>>>>>> a moduleerr_handler set.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or because scsi dma transfer on a real hardware never generates a nmi.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the current implementation, when "select with attention" is
>>>>> processed, scsi controller initiates a dma transfer and fetches a CDB.
>>>>> If dma fails (not mapped, or not allowed), NMI is generated. It is
>>>>> quite a strange design: such an error is an asynchronous event, and
>>>>> CPU wouldn't know, that scsi controller tried to do some dma at
>>>>> certain address. It would have been more consequent to send the error
>>>>> notification to the dma initiator (scsi controller in this case),  not
>>>>> to CPU.
>>>>>
>>>>> The offending code in NetBSD 1.6-3.1:
>>>>>
>>>>> NCRCMD(sc, NCRCMD_SELATN | NCRCMD_DMA); // Here it crashes (under
>>>>> qemu) cause dma page is not valid
>>>>> NCRDMA_SETUP(sc, &sc->sc_cmdp, &sc->sc_cmdlen, 0, &dmasize); // The
>>>>> page would have been made valid here.
>>>>> NCRDMA_GO(sc);
>>>>>
>>>>> In the working versions (before 1.6 and after 4.0) the code looks like 
>>>>> this:
>>>>>
>>>>> NCRDMA_SETUP(sc, &sc->sc_cmdp, &sc->sc_cmdlen, 0, &dmasize);
>>>>> //...
>>>>> NCRCMD(sc, NCRCMD_SELATN | NCRCMD_DMA);
>>>>> NCRDMA_GO(sc);
>>>>>
>>>>> After debugging the code on the real hardware, it looks like qemu has
>>>>> multiple problems in scsi/dma/iommu layer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I modified NCRDMA_SETUP, so that it did dma transfer without mapping
>>>>> the page. In this case NetBSD 3.1 shows the following error (on a real
>>>>> SS-20):
>>>>>
>>>>> dma0: error: csr=a4440212<ERR,DRAINING=0,IEN,ENDMA,BURST=1,FASTER,ALOADED>
>>>>> esp0: DMA error; resetting
>>>>> dma0: error: csr=a4440212<ERR,DRAINING=0,IEN,ENDMA,BURST=1,FASTER,ALOADED>
>>>>>
>>>>> no NMI.
>>>>>
>>>>> And what is more important, on the real hardware "select with
>>>>> attention" does not initiate dma (put a delay, waited 2 seconds and
>>>>> nothing happened). It has to be done manually.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions how to fix it according to the current iommu/dma
>>>>> architecture? Looks like "select with attention" should register
>>>>> callbacks?  ( Volunteers? ;-) )
>>>>
>>>> Excellent analysis!
>>>>
>>>> About NMI: IOMMU just raises the qemu_irq provided by sun4m.c. The
>>>> interrupt bit number is currently 30, which is Module Error
>>>> (asynchronous fault). Maybe this should be 29, MSI (MBus-SBus
>>>> Interface) interrupt? That is still NMI though. Could you check what
>>>> interrupt bits get active in the interrupt controller master status?
>>>
>>> 80000, (system timer/level 10 only), but I have to check that no one steals 
>>> it.
>>>
>>>> What is in IOMMU AFSR?
>>>
>>> 0, as well as AFAR. I have to ensure that no one steals it before I
>>> read it, though. On the real hw tracking registers is more tricky than
>>> on emulated.
>>>
>>>> About select with attention: NCRDMA_GO just tweaks DMA controller, so
>>>> ESP shouldn't perform the transfer if DMA is not ready.
>>>
>>> You mean the controller is tweaked before satn and then NCRDMA_GO
>>> allows the transfer, and then ESP performs it?
>>> To me it looks like NCRDMA_SETUP not just sets DVMA, but also programs
>>> CSR to actually perform the transfer:
>>> http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/ic/lsi64854.c?v=NETBSD3#L359
>>
>> Almost, DMA_GO finally enables DMA:
>> http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/dev/ic/lsi64854var.h?v=NETBSD3#L96
>
> Yes, but doesn't setting target and csr registers imply the command is
> transferred manually, and not by ESP via "Select with attention" ?

I'd suppose target and csr have no effect until DMA is enabled.

>>>> I think Linux always pre-programs DMA.
>>>>
>>>> One way to handle this would be to add a qemu_irq signal from DMA to
>>>> ESP which tells ESP whether DMA is ready.DMA raises or lowers the
>>>> interrupt whenever DMA is enabled or disabled. When the IRQ is
>>>> received by ESP, If there is no transfer pending, it just adjusts an
>>>> internal flag about DMA status. If there is a transfer pending, it is
>>>> started. When ESP handles a command, it should check the internal DMA
>>>> flag. If DMA is ready, continue with the transfer immediately like
>>>> now. Otherwise, hold the transfer and store parameters to internal
>>>> state.
>>>
>>> Sounds reasonable. So you suggest that ESP dma channel is wired to
>>> ESP, and not slavio? Or to both of them?
>
> On a second thought, doesn't setting a callback seem more appropriate?
> Select with(out) attention would just connect the target to the esp,
> and dma would communicate with the target via the esp callback.

The signal approach should be more generic. ESP is also used by MIPS.

>>> You had intention to split dma on esp/le/pp parts. Do you think it
>>> would be possible before 0.13? It would simplify providing fixes for
>>> 0.13.x afterwards.
>>
>> I don't think so, but there's always 0.14.
>>
>>>> I wonder what state bits ESP will show when this happens.
>>>
>>> Good question. Have to look. This one should be easy to check, since
>>> no interrupt is expected between satn and NCRDMA_SETUP.
>
> Unless I missed interrupt (haven't found an easy way of disabling them
> without programming asm) both status and interrupts registers are 0.

Ok.



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