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Re: [Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is
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James Lau |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU? |
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Fri, 7 Jul 2006 10:12:39 +0800 |
I know it's flawed. This is a legacy solution, and the new security model is ongoing. But as you know, it costs time. Before this, I must maintain the program.
2006/7/6, Jan Marten Simons <address@hidden>:
James Lau wrote:
> My program is a utility for internet payment. It takes an important
> role in the payment process to ensure security. One of the key
> functions is that the program should detect which machine is paying.
> So while virtual machine (like QEMU) is present, it can cheat the
> program.
Well, to say it bluntly: Your security concept is flawed, as you cannot
assume a client to be trusted. Rethink your concept. A Kerberos 5 like
model might help you here.
> Checking the hard disk model, cpu type, and other hardward
> informations makes little sense. Because the users or the hackers can
> easily modify these informations. So I need a QEMU internal checking
> method that hackers can't easily bypass.
Just for your information: There's a project derived from qemu named
'argos' which tries to setup a high interaction honeypot to fool hackers
into revealing their techniques and tools. If they can fool skilled
hackers to take the vm for a real system, then your programm can be
fooled as well.
With regards,
Jan
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- [Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?, James Lau, 2006/07/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?, Natalia Portillo, 2006/07/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?, John R. Hogerhuis, 2006/07/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?, James Lau, 2006/07/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?, Jamie Lokier, 2006/07/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?, Daniel Serpell, 2006/07/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?, Kevin F. Quinn, 2006/07/06
- Re: [Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?, G Portokalidis, 2006/07/07
- [Qemu-devel] Re: Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?, Anthony Liguori, 2006/07/07
- [Qemu-devel] Re: Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?, Anthony Liguori, 2006/07/06