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Re: [Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo will stop March 1, 2005
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Jim C. Brown |
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Re: [Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo will stop March 1, 2005 |
Date: |
Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:18:45 -0500 |
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On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 02:18:32PM +0400, Brad Campbell wrote:
> Jean-Michel POURE wrote:
> >Dear friends,
> >
> >Following Fabrice decision to transform QEMU into a proprietary closed
> >solution without any kind of future, I don't find any reason to loose my
> >company time and money fostering FreeOSZoo.
>
> Woah.. what a severe knee jerk reaction based on nothing. Perhaps before
> throwing your toys out of the pram, taking your bat and ball and heading
> home you might actually wait for a reply from Fabrice clarifying his
> intentions?
That is a good question. Why is Fabrice making kqemu propertiary?
I prefer open source code myself (because then I can fix any bugs in the code
on my own) but I do use propertiary software from time to time and I can live
with kqemu being propertiary. I don't like it, but as long as it works it is not
a problem for me.
And if it was, I'd just use qemu-softmmu and stay open.
It may be closed source but it is still free (as in beer). At least he isn't
charging us for his hard work.
>
> Everyone seems so quick to scream and shout about a single little binary
> object and license for one tiny part of the project. Perhaps there is a
> good reason behind what Fabrice is doing. I'm just astonished at the
> reaction to this. Whinge, bitch, moan.. I'm sure he is a busy lad and will
> formulate a reply as time permits. Until you get a clear statement on the
> issue (Fabrice is a clever lad, I'm damn sure he knows *exactly* what he is
> doing) why not just stop pontificating, hurling abuse and accusations and
> get on with your lives!
>
I agree that shutting FreeOSZoo down just because of kqemu is extreme (one
can check out cvs right now and get all the open source qemu w/o any
propertiary code whatsoever, so qemu is still free).
I can think of 3 reasons why kqemu is not free:
1) There are those that use qemu without giving Fabrice any money or credit
(such as iEmulator). This is best resolved by legal action, but it may be
difficult for a single person to fight against an entire company,
financial-wise.
2) Fabrice wants to hold on to the source in order to make revenue from it in
the future.
3) (This one is a long shot) There may be patent issues that prevent Fabrice
from releasing his source code.
Remember that the rest of qemu is open source. So if it is such a big problem
for you, why not reimplement kqemu yourself? I'm trying, you can too.
>
> Brad
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Re: [Qemu-devel] FreeOSZoo will stop March 1, 2005,
Jim C. Brown <=
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