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Re: [Libguestfs] [PATCH 1/2] spec: Recommend cap on NBD_REPLY_TYPE_BLOCK
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Richard W.M. Jones |
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Re: [Libguestfs] [PATCH 1/2] spec: Recommend cap on NBD_REPLY_TYPE_BLOCK_STATUS length |
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Fri, 8 Apr 2022 15:01:17 +0100 |
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On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 04:48:59PM +0300, Nir Soffer wrote:
> This is a malicious server. A good client will drop the connection when
> receiving the first 1 byte chunk.
>
> The real issue here is not enforcing or suggesting a limit on the number of
> extent the server returns, but enforcing a limit on the minimum size of
> a chunk.
>
> Since this is the network *block device* protocol it should not allow chunks
> smaller than the device block size, so anything smaller than 512 bytes
> should be invalid response from the server.
>
> Even the last chunk should not be smaller than 512 bytes. The fact that you
> can serve a file with size that is not aligned to 512 bytes does not mean that
> the export size can be unaligned to the logical block size. There are no real
> block devices that have such alignment so the protocol should not allow this.
> A good server will round the file size down the logical block size to avoid
> this
> issue.
>
> How about letting the client set a minimum size of a chunk? This way we
> avoid the issue of limiting the number of chunks. Merging small chunks
> is best done on the server side instead of wasting bandwidth and doing
> this on the client side.
While it's interesting to know if chunks should obey the
(server-specified) minimum block size, I don't think we should force
operations to only work on sector boundaries. That's a step
backwards. We've spent a long time and effort making nbdkit & NBD
work well for < 512 byte images, byte granularity tails, and disk
operations.
Rich.
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- [PATCH 0/2] More NBD spec prep-work before 64-bit headers, Eric Blake, 2022/04/07
- [PATCH 2/2] spec: Tweak description of maximum block size, Eric Blake, 2022/04/07
- [PATCH 1/2] spec: Recommend cap on NBD_REPLY_TYPE_BLOCK_STATUS length, Eric Blake, 2022/04/07
- Re: [PATCH 1/2] spec: Recommend cap on NBD_REPLY_TYPE_BLOCK_STATUS length, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy, 2022/04/07
- Re: [PATCH 1/2] spec: Recommend cap on NBD_REPLY_TYPE_BLOCK_STATUS length, Wouter Verhelst, 2022/04/08
- Re: [Libguestfs] [PATCH 1/2] spec: Recommend cap on NBD_REPLY_TYPE_BLOCK_STATUS length, Richard W.M. Jones, 2022/04/08
- Re: [Libguestfs] [PATCH 1/2] spec: Recommend cap on NBD_REPLY_TYPE_BLOCK_STATUS length, Richard W.M. Jones, 2022/04/08
- Re: [Libguestfs] [PATCH 1/2] spec: Recommend cap on NBD_REPLY_TYPE_BLOCK_STATUS length, Nir Soffer, 2022/04/08
- Re: [Libguestfs] [PATCH 1/2] spec: Recommend cap on NBD_REPLY_TYPE_BLOCK_STATUS length,
Richard W.M. Jones <=
- Re: [Libguestfs] [PATCH 1/2] spec: Recommend cap on NBD_REPLY_TYPE_BLOCK_STATUS length, Eric Blake, 2022/04/08
- Re: [Libguestfs] [PATCH 1/2] spec: Recommend cap on NBD_REPLY_TYPE_BLOCK_STATUS length, Nir Soffer, 2022/04/08
- Re: [Libguestfs] [PATCH 1/2] spec: Recommend cap on NBD_REPLY_TYPE_BLOCK_STATUS length, Richard W.M. Jones, 2022/04/08