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Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration
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Roman Kagan |
Subject: |
Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration |
Date: |
Tue, 5 Oct 2021 02:18:40 +0300 |
On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 11:11:00AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 06:07:29PM +0300, Denis Plotnikov wrote:
> > It might be useful for the cases when a slow block layer should be replaced
> > with a more performant one on running VM without stopping, i.e. with very
> > low
> > downtime comparable with the one on migration.
> >
> > It's possible to achive that for two reasons:
> >
> > 1.The VMStates of "virtio-blk" and "vhost-user-blk" are almost the same.
> > They consist of the identical VMSTATE_VIRTIO_DEVICE and differs from
> > each other in the values of migration service fields only.
> > 2.The device driver used in the guest is the same: virtio-blk
> >
> > In the series cross-migration is achieved by adding a new type.
> > The new type uses virtio-blk VMState instead of vhost-user-blk specific
> > VMstate, also it implements migration save/load callbacks to be compatible
> > with migration stream produced by "virtio-blk" device.
> >
> > Adding the new type instead of modifying the existing one is convenent.
> > It ease to differ the new virtio-blk-compatible vhost-user-blk
> > device from the existing non-compatible one using qemu machinery without any
> > other modifiactions. That gives all the variety of qemu device related
> > constraints out of box.
>
> Hmm I'm not sure I understand. What is the advantage for the user?
> What if vhost-user-blk became an alias for vhost-user-virtio-blk?
> We could add some hacks to make it compatible for old machine types.
The point is that virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk are not
migration-compatible ATM. OTOH they are the same device from the guest
POV so there's nothing fundamentally preventing the migration between
the two. In particular, we see it as a means to switch between the
storage backend transports via live migration without disrupting the
guest.
Migration-wise virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk have in common
- the content of the VMState -- VMSTATE_VIRTIO_DEVICE
The two differ in
- the name and the version of the VMStateDescription
- virtio-blk has an extra migration section (via .save/.load callbacks
on VirtioDeviceClass) containing requests in flight
It looks like to become migration-compatible with virtio-blk,
vhost-user-blk has to start using VMStateDescription of virtio-blk and
provide compatible .save/.load callbacks. It isn't entirely obvious how
to make this machine-type-dependent, so we came up with a simpler idea
of defining a new device that shares most of the implementation with the
original vhost-user-blk except for the migration stuff. We're certainly
open to suggestions on how to reconcile this under a single
vhost-user-blk device, as this would be more user-friendly indeed.
We considered using a class property for this and defining the
respective compat clause, but IIUC the class constructors (where .vmsd
and .save/.load are defined) are not supposed to depend on class
properties.
Thanks,
Roman.
- [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration, Denis Plotnikov, 2021/10/04
- [PATCH v0 2/2] vhost-user-blk-pci: add new pci device type to support vhost-user-virtio-blk, Denis Plotnikov, 2021/10/04
- [PATCH v0 1/2] vhost-user-blk: add a new vhost-user-virtio-blk type, Denis Plotnikov, 2021/10/04
- Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2021/10/04
- Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration,
Roman Kagan <=
- Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2021/10/05
- Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2021/10/05
- Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration, Eduardo Habkost, 2021/10/05
- Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2021/10/05
- Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2021/10/06
- Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2021/10/06
- Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2021/10/06
- Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2021/10/06
- Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, 2021/10/06
- Re: [PATCH v0 0/2] virtio-blk and vhost-user-blk cross-device migration, Michael S. Tsirkin, 2021/10/06