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Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror
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Max Reitz |
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Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror |
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Fri, 4 Oct 2019 17:27:40 +0200 |
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On 04.10.19 17:04, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> 04.10.2019 17:48, Max Reitz wrote:
>> On 04.10.19 15:22, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>> 04.10.2019 15:59, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>> On 03.10.19 11:34, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>>>> 02.10.2019 18:52, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>>>> On 02.10.19 17:06, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>>>>>> 02.10.2019 18:03, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>>>>>>> 02.10.2019 17:57, Max Reitz wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 12.09.19 17:13, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Prior 9adc1cb49af8d do_sync_target_write had a bug: it reset
>>>>>>>>>> aligned-up
>>>>>>>>>> region in the dirty bitmap, which means that we may not copy some
>>>>>>>>>> bytes
>>>>>>>>>> and assume them copied, which actually leads to producing corrupted
>>>>>>>>>> target.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So 9adc1cb49af8d forced dirty bitmap granularity to be
>>>>>>>>>> request_alignment for mirror-top filter, so we are not working with
>>>>>>>>>> unaligned requests. However forcing large alignment obviously
>>>>>>>>>> decreases
>>>>>>>>>> performance of unaligned requests.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This commit provides another solution for the problem: if unaligned
>>>>>>>>>> padding is already dirty, we can safely ignore it, as
>>>>>>>>>> 1. It's dirty, it will be copied by mirror_iteration anyway
>>>>>>>>>> 2. It's dirty, so skipping it now we don't increase dirtiness of the
>>>>>>>>>> bitmap and therefore don't damage "synchronicity" of the
>>>>>>>>>> write-blocking mirror.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But that’s not what active mirror is for. The point of active mirror
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> that it must converge because every guest write will contribute
>>>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>> that goal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you skip active mirroring for unaligned guest writes, they will not
>>>>>>>>> contribute towards converging, but in fact lead to the opposite.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The will not contribute only if region is already dirty. Actually,
>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>> first iteration of mirroring (copying the whole disk), all following
>>>>>>>> writes
>>>>>>>> will contribute, so the whole process must converge. It is a bit
>>>>>>>> similar with
>>>>>>>> running one mirror loop in normal mode, and then enable write-blocking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other words, we don't need "all guest writes contribute" to converge,
>>>>>>> "all guest writes don't create new dirty bits" is enough, as we have
>>>>>>> parallel
>>>>>>> mirror iteration which contiguously handles dirty bits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hm, in a sense. But it does mean that guest writes will not contribute
>>>>>> to convergence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that’s against the current definition of write-blocking, which does
>>>>>> state that “when data is written to the source, write it (synchronously)
>>>>>> to the target as well”.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, understand. But IMHO our proposed behavior is better in general.
>>>>> Do you think it's a problem to change spec now?
>>>>> If yes, I'll resend with an option
>>>>
>>>> Well, the thing is that I’d find it weird if write-blocking wasn’t
>>>> blocking in all cases. And in my opinion, it makes more sense for
>>>> active mirror if all writes actively contributed to convergence.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why? What is the benefit in it?
>>> What is "all writes actively contributed to convergence" for user?
>>
>> One thing I wonder about is whether it’s really guaranteed that the
>> background job will run under full I/O load, and how often it runs.
>>
>> I fear that with your model, the background job might starve and the
>> mirror may take a very long time.
>
> Hmmm. I think mirror job is in same context as guest writes, and goes
> through same IO api.. Why it will starve? (I understand that my words
> are not an evidence...).
I thought that maybe if the disk is read to write and write all the
time, there’d be no time for the mirror coroutine.
>> It won’t diverge, but it also won’t
>> really converge.
>
> But same will be with current behavior: guest is not guaranteed to write
> to all parts of disk. And in most scenarios it doesn't. So, if mirror job
> starve because of huge guest IO load, we will not converge anyway.
>
> So, background process is necessary thing for converge anyway.
Good point. That convinces me.
>> The advantage of letting all writes block is that even under full I/O
>> load, the mirror job will progress at a steady pace.
>>
>>> I think for user there may be the following criteria:
>>>
>>> 1. guaranteed converge, with any guest write load.
>>> Both current and my proposed variants are OK.
>>>
>>> 2. Less impact on guest.
>>> Obviously my proposed variant is better
>>>
>>> 3. Total time of mirroring
>>> Seems, current may be a bit better, but I don't think that unaligned
>>> tails gives significant impact.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> So, assume I want [1]+[2]. And possibly
>>> 2.2: Even less impact on guest: ignore not only unaligned tails if they are
>>> already dirty, but full synchronous mirror operation if area is already
>>> dirty.
>>>
>>> How should I call this? Should it be separate mode, or option for
>>> write-blocking?
>>
>> I don’t know whether it makes sense to add a separate mode or a separate
>> option just for this difference. I don’t think anyone would choose the
>> non-default option.
>
> At least Virtuozzo will choose :)
But if Virtuozzo knows exactly what to choose, then we can just
implement only that behavior.
Max
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- Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror, Max Reitz, 2019/10/02
- Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy, 2019/10/02
- Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy, 2019/10/02
- Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror, Max Reitz, 2019/10/02
- Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy, 2019/10/03
- Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror, Max Reitz, 2019/10/04
- Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy, 2019/10/04
- Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror, Max Reitz, 2019/10/04
- Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy, 2019/10/04
- Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror,
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- Re: [PATCH 3/4] block/mirror: support unaligned write in active mirror, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy, 2019/10/04