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Re: [Qemu-block] [PATCH 1/2] block/raw-format: switch to BDRV_BLOCK_DATA

From: Max Reitz
Subject: Re: [Qemu-block] [PATCH 1/2] block/raw-format: switch to BDRV_BLOCK_DATA with BDRV_BLOCK_RECURSE
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 16:46:20 +0200
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On 13.08.19 15:21, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 13.08.2019 um 14:01 hat Kevin Wolf geschrieben:
>> Am 13.08.2019 um 13:28 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben:
>>> 13.08.2019 14:04, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>>> Am 12.08.2019 um 20:11 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben:
>>>>> BDRV_BLOCK_RAW makes generic bdrv_co_block_status to fallthrough to
>>>>> returned file. But is it correct behavior at all? If returned file
>>>>> itself has a backing file, we may report as totally unallocated and
>>>>> area which actually has data in bottom backing file.
>>>>> So, mirroring of qcow2 under raw-format is broken. Which is illustrated
>>>>> by following commit with a test. Let's make raw-format behave more
>>>>> correctly returning BDRV_BLOCK_DATA.
>>>>> Suggested-by: Max Reitz <address@hidden>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <address@hidden>
>>>> After some reading, I think I came to the conclusion that RAW is the
>>>> correct thing to do. There is indeed a problem, but this patch is trying
>>>> to fix it in the wrong place.
>>>> In the case where the backing file contains some data, and we have a
>>>> 'raw' node above the qcow2 overlay node, the content of the respective
>>>> block is not defined by the queried backing file layer, so it is
>>>> completely correct that bdrv_is_allocated() returns false, like it would
>>>> if you queried the qcow2 layer directly. If it returned true, we would
>>>> copy everything, which isn't right either (the test cases should may add
>>>> the qemu-img map output of the target so this becomes visible).
>>>> The problem is that we try to recurse along the backing chain, but we
>>>> fail to make the step from the raw node to the backing file.
>>> I'd say, the problem is that we ignore backing chain of non-backing
>>> child
>> Yes, exactly. And I know even less about what happens if a child is
>> neither bs->file nor bs->backing. Imagine a qcow2 image with an external
>> data file that is a qcow2 image with a backing file itself. :-)
>> Actually, just having two qcow2 layers nested with bs->file probably
>> already fails.
>>>> Note that just extending Max's "deal with filters" is not enough to fix
>>>> this because raw doesn't actually meet all of the criteria for being a
>>>> filter in this sense (at least because the 'offset' option can change
>>>> offsets between raw and its child).
>>>> I think this is essentially a result of special-casing backing files
>>>> everywhere instead of treating them like children like any other.
>>> But we need to special-case them, as we have interfaces operating on
>>> backing chain,
>> I'm not sure yet if this means that these interfaces are wrong, but it
>> might. But in any case, I think we depend on special-casing in more
>> places than we should.
>>>> bdrv_co_block_status_above() probably shouldn't recurse along the
>>>> backing chain, but along the returned *file pointers, and consider the
>>>> returned offset in *map.
>>> So, you mean that in case of unallocated, format layer should return
>>> it's backing file as file?
>> Yes, because that's where it's reading the data from.
>> Hm... Now I wonder what this means for DATA... In theory it would have
>> to be set for backing files, but that would make it completely useless.
>> We can distinguish the cases by looking at *file, but how does the
>> generic block layer know which child should be counted as "allocated"
>> and which shouldn't?
> Possible answer to my own question:
> bdrv_is_allocated(bs) isn't even asking a complete question. What we
> really need to ask is whether a specific child is where data comes from.
> What the current callers of bdrv_is_allocated() are interested in is
> whether the data comes from bs->backing or from somewhere else. That is,
> if removing bs from the graph (so that all parents of bs would point to
> bs->backing instead) would still result in the same data in the given
> block.

Maybe callers of bdrv_is_allocated() should just ensure that the node
they pass actually has a backing file.

(If it doesn’t, they should skip all filters until it does.)


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