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Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] kvm/arm: add capability to forward hypercall to user


From: Guoheyi
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] kvm/arm: add capability to forward hypercall to user space
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 20:33:45 +0800
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Sorry for late response as we had our long holiday last week :)


On 2019/10/2 1:19, James Morse wrote:
Hi Heyi,

On 24/09/2019 16:20, Heyi Guo wrote:
As more SMC/HVC usages emerge on arm64 platforms, like SDEI, it makes
sense for kvm to have the capability of forwarding such calls to user
space for further emulation.
(what do you mean by further? Doesn't user-space have to do all of it?)
For kvm will always handle hvc/smc guest exit for the first step, even if it is only a simple forwarding, I called the user-space processing as "further emulation".

We reuse the existing term "hypercall" for SMC/HVC, as well as the
hypercall structure in kvm_run to exchange arguments and return
values. The definition on arm64 is as below:

exit_reason: KVM_EXIT_HYPERCALL

Input:
   nr: the immediate value of SMC/HVC calls; not really used today.
   args[6]: x0..x5 (This is not fully conform with SMCCC which requires
            x6 as argument as well, but use space can use GET_ONE_REG
            ioctl for such rare case).
If this structure isn't right for us, we could define a different one for 
arm/arm64.
(we did this for kvm_vcpu_events)
Do you mean that we can move the hypercall struct definition to arch specific kvm_host.h? For it is in the common kvm_run structure, we'll need to change every kvm supported architectures, including x86, mips, powerpc, s390. Is it acceptable?

I found another solution from papr which defines its own hypercall structure in the kvm_run union definition:

        /* KVM_EXIT_PAPR_HCALL */
        struct {
            __u64 nr;
            __u64 ret;
            __u64 args[9];
        } papr_hcall;

How about we define a new structure for ARM/ARM64 specifically?


Return:
   args[0..3]: x0..x3 as defined in SMCCC. We need to extract
               args[0..3] and write them to x0..x3 when hypercall exit
               returns.
Are we saying that KVM_EXIT_HYPERCALL expects to be used with SMC-CC?
(if so, we should state that).
Yes I followed SMC-CC when writing this.

I'm not certain we should tie this to SMC-CC.

If we don't tie it to SMC-CC this selection of in/out registers looks odd, 
there is
nothing about HVC/SMC that uses these registers, its just the SMC convention.
Maybe we don't need to tie it to SMC-CC, and simply load all values in args[6] to GP registers... And then there is either no strong reason to extend hypercall structure for ARM.

Flag hypercall_forward is added to turn on/off hypercall forwarding
and the default is false. Another flag hypercall_excl_psci is to
exclude PSCI from forwarding for backward compatible, and it only
makes sense to check its value when hypercall_forward is enabled.
Calling out PSCI like this is something we shouldn't do. There will be, (are!) 
other
SMC-CC calls that the kernel provides emulation for, we can't easily add to 
this list.
Yes; I didn't figure out good way to keep compatibility and future extension...
I think the best way to avoid this, is to say the hypercall mechanism forwards 
'unhandled
SMC/HVC' to user-space. Which things the kernel chooses to handle can change.

We need a way for user-space to know which SMC/HVC calls the kernel will 
handle, and will
not forward. A suggestion is to add a co-processor that lists these by #imm and 
r0/x0
value. User-space can then query any call to find out if it would be exported 
if the guest
made that call. Something like kvm_arm_get_fw_reg().
Do you mean we add only one co-processor to list all SMC/HVC calls kernel will handle? So the reg size should be large enough to hold the list, each entry of which contains a #imm and r0/x0 pair? Is the reg size fixed by definition or it can be queried by user-space? If it is fixed, what's the size should we choose?

Does it make sense to extend the entry to hold the function ID base and limit, so that it can describe the whole range for each function group, like PSCI, SDEI, etc?


I agree it should be possible to export the PSCI range to user-space, so that 
user-space
can provide a newer/better version than the kernel emulates, or prevent 
secondary cores
coming online. (we should check how gracefully the kernel handles that... it 
doesn't
happen on real systems)
This could be done with something like kvm_vm_ioctl_enable_cap(), one option is 
to use the
args to toggle the on/off value, but it may be simpler to expose a
KVM_CAP_ARM_PSCI_TO_USER that can be enabled.
Sounds good. Then it may not be something we need to do in this patch set :) We can postpone this change when user-space PSCI is ready.


Please update Documentation/virt/kvm/api.txt as part of the patches that make 
user-visible
changes.
Sure; I can do that when we determine the interfaces.

For 32bit, are we going to export SMC/HVC calls that failed their 
condition-code checks?
I'm not familiar with 32bit, either we don't have 32bit platforms to test the code. So my preference is not to make many changes to 32bit...

The hypercall structure should probably indicate whether the SMC/HVC call came 
from
aarch32 or aarch64, as the behaviour may be different.
How about to use the longmode field in hypercall structure? Standard service calls will indicate this in function ID, but we may need to know before parsing the function ID, isn't it?

Really appreciate your comments and suggestions. They are really helpful.

Heyi



Thanks,

James

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