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Re: [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v2] hw/ptimer: Don't wrap around counter for expir


From: Dmitry Osipenko
Subject: Re: [Qemu-arm] [PATCH v2] hw/ptimer: Don't wrap around counter for expired timer that uses tick handler
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:49:19 +0300
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On 01.07.2016 19:36, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 30 June 2016 at 20:01, Dmitry Osipenko <address@hidden> wrote:
>> On 30.06.2016 18:02, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> What I meant was: ptimer_get_count() is typically called to generate
>>> a value to return from a register. That's a separate thing, conceptually,
>>> from whether the device happens to also trigger an interrupt on timer
>>> expiry by passing a bh to ptimer_init(). So it's very odd for a detail
>>> of interrupt-on-timer-expiry (that there is a bottom half) to affect
>>> the value returned when you read the timer count register.
> 
>> In order to handle wraparound correctly, software needs to track the moment 
>> of
>> the wraparound - the interrupt. If software reads wrapped around counter 
>> value
>> before IRQ triggered (ptimer expired), then it would assume that no 
>> wraparound
>> happened and won't perform counter value correction, resulting in periodic
>> counter "jumping" backwards.
> 
> That just says you need particular behaviour between counter reads
> and IRQ triggers; it doesn't say that you need the behaviour to be
> different if the ptimer code doesn't know about the IRQ trigger.
> 

Okay, I already explained the reason for having two different behaviours - to
make polled counter value more distributed when possible. If I understand you
correctly, you don't like it because it is "odd" and I agree that it's a bit 
clumsy.

So, what we are going to do now? Would you just revert the offending commit or
you have some other suggestions?

I think we still need to change the returned counter value to "1" in case of the
expired timer, since it would result in the deterministic behaviour across of
all of the timers. However, it definitely feels like it should go into the
standalone patch and I can include it into the next iteration of the ptimer 
patches.

-- 
Dmitry



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