Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Paparazzi-devel Digest, Vol 99, Issue 2

On the ground, when select takeoff block and engage auto2 motor rarely starts to spin (but spins in other modes).

If I manually takeoff and engage auto2 motor starts most of the time. I had only an issue once or two during the first flights so I did not report, thought it was a problem on my side.

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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 05:34:02 +0000
From: Eduardo lavratti <address@hidden>
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wow .. more friends with same problema.
well, i simulated this problem and re-checked all my config.

i changed some parameter in V_CTL and the simulation are working very well for now.

try change your v_ctl with this parameters and publish the result here :

<section name="VERTICAL CONTROL" prefix="V_CTL_">
<define name="POWER_CTL_BAT_NOMINAL" value="16.0" unit="volt"/>

<define name="ALTITUDE_PGAIN" value="0.05"/>

<define name="ALTITUDE_MAX_CLIMB" value="4." unit="m/s"/>

<define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_NOMINAL_CRUISE_THROTTLE" value="0.5"/>
<define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_MIN_CRUISE_THROTTLE" value="0.4"/>
<define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_MAX_CRUISE_THROTTLE" value="0.9"/>
<define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_LOITER_TRIM" value="2000" unit="pprz_t"/> 
<define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_DASH_TRIM" value="-1500" unit="pprz_t"/> 
<define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_CLIMB_THROTTLE_INCREMENT" value="0.15" unit="%/(m/s)"/> 
<define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_PGAIN" value="0.008" unit="%/(m/s)"/> 
<define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_IGAIN" value="0.25"/>
<define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_PITCH_OF_VZ_PGAIN" value="0.14"/> 

<define name="AUTO_GROUNDSPEED_SETPOINT" value="15.0" unit="m/s"/>
<define name="AUTO_GROUNDSPEED_PGAIN" value="0.75"/>
<define name="AUTO_GROUNDSPEED_IGAIN" value="0.25"/>
<define name="AUTO_PITCH_PGAIN" value="0.145"/>
<define name="AUTO_PITCH_IGAIN" value="0.025"/>
<define name="AUTO_PITCH_MAX_PITCH" value="RadOfDeg(25)"/>
<define name="AUTO_PITCH_MIN_PITCH" value="RadOfDeg(-25)"/>
<define name="THROTTLE_SLEW_LIMITER" value="2" unit="s"/>
</section>

Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 09:22:40 +0530
From: address@hidden
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] another fatal crash

Hi all,
I am also using the latest repository, yesterday I found when i engage AUTO2 throttle stops completely. In Manual I could fly well but moment I engage AUTO2 throttle gets cut and aircraft starts falling down. Anybody please suggest how to rectify this problem? I am also trying to find the reason for the throttle cut, but nothing clicked yet.

Another problem I faced was during flight In Auto2 Iam unable to change the gains from the Ground control station? When on Ground I tried this exercise of changing gains in AUTO2 it works well. Are there any altitude limitations? or I should ensure Aircraft is level? or any other settings that needs to be done?

Kindly help
--
Thanks and Regards
R.Guruganesh

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Eduardo lavratti <address@hidden> wrote:

Whell, one more time the ppz fizedwing set throttle to 0 (zero) when i engaged AUTO2 mode.
the flywing stalled and crashed.

i think fixedwing ppz have a bug in throttle code.
i am using airspeed_ets.
when i engaged auto2 the altitude is greater than desired.

i will search and put a minimul throttle value in the ppz code.

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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 05:43:30 +0000
From: Eduardo lavratti <address@hidden>
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i simulated the problem in gcs simulation.
i changed some parameter of v_ctl section and problem no occour in simulation any more.

Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 21:12:10 -0700
From: address@hidden
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Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Paparazzi-devel Digest, Vol 98, Issue 92

In regards to the fatal crash in Auto2. You have hit launch on the GCS right? This is very easy to test on the ground. Hold the plane and go to Auto2, if the throttle does not start then you have some issues! There is no reason for you to be plowing airplanes into the ground.

AJ

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1. Re: CHDK and digital_cam.xml (address@hidden)

2. another fatal crash (Eduardo lavratti)

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Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:12:46 +0200

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Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] CHDK and digital_cam.xml

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I tried it, but no success.

I ordered an other TPS2051B and I am going to enable it with the

CAM_Switch (LED5) as a workaround.

Balazs

>

> i tested the AUX_SW of my TWOG v1.0

> i used <configure name="SYS_TIME_LED" value="4"/> in firmware section.

>

> as i tell, aux output need some LOAD to work properly. I use 1k resistor.

> If you test only with multimeter it not go to 0volt.

>

>

>

>

>

>> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 00:10:03 +0200

>> From: address@hidden

>> To: address@hidden

>> Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] CHDK and digital_cam.xml

>>

>> I am using TWOG. I think, it hasn't got the feature for connecting BEC.

>>

>> Balazs

>>

>>

>>

>> > Which board are you using? The yapa board switches the Servo 5v and

>> not

>> > the

>> > auto pilot 5v using the aux switch. Same for the Rc.

>> > On May 29, 2012 8:28 AM, "Balazs GATI" <address@hidden> wrote:

>> >

>> >> I tried already without any success. :(

>> >>

>> >> If nobody has airframe file to a working AUX line, I have to give up,

>> >> because I am unable to find out the right way of AUX configuration

>> based

>> >> only on the source code. Perhaps later someone will post valuable

>> >> information.

>> >>

>> >> Thx for support!

>> >> Balazs

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> 2012.05.29. 8:13 keltez?ssel, C?dric Marzer (priv?) ?rta:

>> >>

>> >>> You might want to use the "light" module to see if you get

>> something...

>> >>>

>> >>> -----Message d'origine-----

>> >>> De :

>> >>> address@hidden<address@hidden>[mailto:

>> >>> paparazzi-devel-**bounces+cedric.marzer<paparazzi-devel-bounces%2Bcedric.marzer>

>> >>> address@hiddennongnu.org <address@hidden>] De la part de

>> >>> address@hidden

>> >>> Envoy? : lundi 28 mai 2012 21:57

>> >>> ? : address@hidden

>> >>> Objet : Re: [Paparazzi-devel] CHDK and digital_cam.xml

>> >>>

>> >>> Sorry, I forgot to report: the TPS input is low all the time, too.

>> >>>

>> >>> Balazs

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>>> measure voltage on TPS PIN5 (input) when in SHOT and normal.

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>> Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 22:40:53 +0200

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>

>> >>>> AGRESSiVA HiGH PERFORMANCE

>> >>>> ///

>> >>>> (o o)

>> >>>> ____ooO__(_)__Ooo____

>> >>>> By Dudu

>> >>>>

>> >>>> From: address@hidden

>> >>>>> To: address@hidden

>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] CHDK and digital_cam.xml

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> The result:

>> >>>>> Compiling OK

>> >>>>> settings file: dc.xml

>> >>>>> orange dots for autoshoots on GCS: OK AUX voltage: low (constant

>> >>>>> 0.02V)

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> :(

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> Should I somehow enable this output? USE_LED or similar?

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> Balazs

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>> You might try that and tell me what you get :

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> <modules>

>> >>>>>> <load name="digital_cam.xml">

>> >>>>>> <define name="DC_SHUTTER_LED" value="6"/> <define

>> >>>>>> name="LED_6_BANK" value="1"/> <define name="LED_6_PIN"

>> >>>>>> value="18"/>

>> >>>>>> <define name="PUSH" value="LED_ON" />

>> >>>>>> <define name="RELEASE" value="LED_OFF" /> </load>

>> </modules>

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----

>> >>>>>> De :

>> >>>>>> address@hidden<address@hidden>

>> >>>>>> [mailto:paparazzi-devel-**bounces+cedric.marzer<paparazzi-devel-bounces%2Bcedric.marzer>

>> >>>>>> address@hiddennongnu.org <address@hidden>]

>> >>>>>> De

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>> la

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> part de address@hidden

>> >>>>>> Envoy? : vendredi 25 mai 2012 22:13 ? :

>> address@hidden

>> >>>>>> Objet : Re: [Paparazzi-devel] CHDK and digital_cam.xml

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> Hi,

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> I still didn't find the solution. It would mean big help for me,

>> if

>> >>>>>> someone could send me an airframe file with working AUX output.

>> Or

>> >>>>>> at least the relevant lines in it.

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> Thx

>> >>>>>> Balazs

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>> Yes, I tried, but they seems already be defined. The compiler

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>> resulted

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> the warnings. I found similar lines in the tiny_2.11.h

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> Balazs

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> 2012.05.25. 8:05 keltez?ssel, C?dric Marzer (priv?) ?rta:

>> >>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> Did you define the led pin and bank as in my airframe in a

>> >>>>>>>> previous message ?

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> *De :*paparazzi-devel-bounces+**spam1=address@hidden

>> >>>>>>>> [mailto:paparazzi-devel-**bounces+spam1<paparazzi-devel-bounces%2Bspam1>

>> >>>>>>>> address@hiddennongnu.org <address@hidden>] *De

>> >>>>>>>> la part

>> >>>>>>>> de* Eduardo lavratti

>> >>>>>>>> *Envoy? :* vendredi 25 mai 2012 02:26 *? :* Paparazzi developer

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> forum

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> *Objet :* Re: [Paparazzi-devel] CHDK and digital_cam.xml

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> Balazs, you want AUX 5v because you like to use chdk remote

>> shot ?

>> >>>>>>>> you can use a simple transistor + 2 resistor to convert an 3.3v

>> >>>>>>>> to

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> 5v.

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 00:14:17 +0200

>> >>>>>>>>> From:

>> >>>>>>>>> address@hidden<mailto:gatib@**rht.bme.hu<address@hidden>

>> >>>>>>>>> >

>> >>>>>>>>> To: address@hidden

>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:paparazzi-devel@**nongnu.org

>> >>>>>>>>> <address@hidden>>

>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] CHDK and digital_cam.xml

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>> Thx for the idea! Unfortunately it doesnt help to switch the

>> >>>>>>>>> power on the AUX line. Meanwhile I checked that the CAM_SW

>> >>>>>>>>> output is working correctly, it goes high (3.3V) periodicaly

>> as

>> >>>>>>>>> it should in autoshoot mode.

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>> But the AUX line is still down. I put only<define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="POWER_SWITCH_LED"/> in the MISC section of the

>> airframe

>> >>>>>>>>> file but I still can't switch the power on with the power

>> icon

>> >>>>>>>>> nor in the settings tab provided by the switch.xml settings

>> >>>>>>>>> file.

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> Although

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> I can see in the GCS, that the power_switch variable changes

>> >>>>>>>>> according the commands, but the voltage at the AUX line is

>> >>>>>>>>> still 0.3V. I even cheked the servo power voltage: the 5V

>> rail

>> >>>>>>>>> seems to be intact.

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>> Where should I look for errors, info or ideas?

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>> Some explanation: my Canon A800 can not be controlled with

>> 3.3V

>> >>>>>>>>> of the CAM_SW, therefore I would like to use the 5V of the

>> AUX

>> >>>>>>>>> line

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> to

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> shoot.

>> >>>>>>>>> :(

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>> Balazs

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>> > I think you need to define the pin and the bank of the led

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> number

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> you> define as DC_SHUTTER_LED.

>> >>>>>>>>> > I join my airframe file but it is not 100% mature ! Use at

>> >>>>>>>>> your own> risk...

>> >>>>>>>>> >

>> >>>>>>>>> >

>> >>>>>>>>> >

>> >>>>>>>>> > On Wed, 2012-05-23 at 14:50 +0200, address@hidden

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:address@hidden>**wrote:

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> Thank you Eduardo!

>> >>>>>>>>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> My airframe file:

>> >>>>>>>>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> <!DOCTYPE airframe SYSTEM "airframe.dtd"> >> >>  >> >> <airframe name="Trainer60 - TWOG v1"> >> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <firmware name="fixedwing"> >> <target name="ap"

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> board="twog_1.0"/>

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> <define name="AGR_CLIMB" /> >> <define name="USE_I2C0"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <define name="USE_AIRSPEED"/> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>>> name="USE_BARO_ETS"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <define name="USE_ADC"/> >> <define name="USE_ADC_3"/>

>>  >> <define name="USE_ADC_4"/> 

>> >>>>>>>>> voltage--> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="LOITER_TRIM" /> >> <define name="ALT_KALMAN"

>> />

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <define name="ADC_CHANNEL_VSUPPLY" value="ADC_3"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <subsystem name="radio_control" type="ppm"/> >> <subsystem

>> >>>>>>>>> name="telemetry"

>> >>>>>>>>> type="transparent"> >> <configure name="MODEM_BAUD"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="B57600"/> >> </subsystem> >> <subsystem

>> >>>>>>>>> name="control"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <subsystem name="gps" type="xsens"/> >> <subsystem

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> name="navigation"/> >> <subsystem name="i2c"/> >> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> </firmware>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>  >> <servos> >>

>> <servo

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> name="AILERON" no="4" min="2000" neutral="1500"

>> >>>>>>>>> >> max="1000"/>  >>

>> <servo

>> >>>>>>>>> name="ELEVATOR" no="3" min="2000" neutral="1400"

>> >>>>>>>>> >> max="1000"/>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> <servo name="THROTTLE" no="7" min="1000" neutral="1000"

>> >>>>>>>>> >> max="2000"/>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> <servo name="RUDDER" no="6" min="1000" neutral="1500"

>> >>>>>>>>> >> max="2000"/>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> </servos>

>> >>>>>>>>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> >>  >> <commands>

>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <axis name="THROTTLE" failsafe_value="0"/> >> <axis

>> >>>>>>>>> name="ROLL"

>> >>>>>>>>> failsafe_value="0"/> >> <axis name="PITCH"

>> >>>>>>>>> failsafe_value="0"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> <axis name="YAW" failsafe_value="0"/> >> <axis name="FLAPS"

>> >>>>>>>>> failsafe_value="0"/> >> </commands> >> >>  >> <rc_commands>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <set command="THROTTLE" value="@THROTTLE"/> >> <set

>> >>>>>>>>>>> command="ROLL"

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> value="@ROLL"/> >> <set command="PITCH" value="@PITCH"/>

>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <set command="YAW" value="@YAW"/> >> <set command="FLAPS"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="@FLAPS"/> >> </rc_commands> >> >> <section

>> >>>>>>>>> name="MIXER">

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <define name="COMBI_SWITCH" value="0.4"/> 

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> </section> >> >> <command_laws> >> <set

>> >>>>>>>>> servo="THROTTLE"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="@THROTTLE"/> >> <set servo="ELEVATOR"

>> value="@PITCH"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <set servo="RUDDER" value="@YAW + @ROLL*COMBI_SWITCH"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <set servo="AILERON" value="@ROLL"/> >> </command_laws>

>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>  >> <section name="AUTO1"

>> >>>>>>>>> prefix="AUTO1_"> >> <define name="MAX_ROLL"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="RadOfDeg(50)"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <define name="MAX_PITCH" value="RadOfDeg(40)"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>>> </section> >> >>  >> <section

>> >>>>>>>>>>> name="BAT">

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <define

>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>> name="ADC_CHANNEL_CURRENT" value="ADC_4"/> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="MilliAmpereOfAdc(adc)" value="(100*adc)"/> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="VOLTAGE_ADC_A" value="0.05"/> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> name="VOLTAGE_ADC_B"

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> value="1"/> >> <define name="VoltageOfAdc(adc)" value

>> >>>>>>>>> ="(VOLTAGE_ADC_A * adc +>> VOLTAGE_ADC_B)"/> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="CATASTROPHIC_BAT_LEVEL" value="19.0" unit="V"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="CRITIC_BAT_LEVEL" value="20.0" unit="V"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="LOW_BAT_LEVEL" value="21.0" unit="V"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="MAX_BAT_LEVEL" value="25.0" unit="V"/> >> </section>

>> >>>>>>>>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>  >> <section name="HORIZONTAL

>> >>>>>>>>> CONTROL"

>> >>>>>>>>> prefix="H_CTL_"> >> <define name="COURSE_PGAIN"

>> value="-0.7"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>  >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="ROLL_MAX_SETPOINT" value="0.7" unit="radians"/>  >> <define name="ROLL_SLEW" value="0.1"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>  >> <define name="ROLL_ATTITUDE_GAIN"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="-9000"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>  >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="ROLL_RATE_GAIN" value="-1500"/>  >> <define name="PITCH_DGAIN" value="1.5"/>

>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="PITCH_PGAIN" value="-7000"/> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="ELEVATOR_OF_ROLL" value="1700"/> 

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <define name="PITCH_MAX_SETPOINT" value="0.5"

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> unit="radians"/> >> <define name="PITCH_MIN_SETPOINT"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="-0.25" unit="radians"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> </section> >> >>  >> <section

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> name="VERTICAL CONTROL" prefix="V_CTL_"> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="ALTITUDE_PGAIN" value="-0.1" unit="(m/s)/m"/>  >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="ALTITUDE_MAX_CLIMB" value="1" unit="m/s"/>  >>  >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_NOMINAL_**CRUISE_THROTTLE"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="0.6"

>> >>>>>>>>> >> unit="%"/>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> <define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_MIN_**CRUISE_THROTTLE"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="0.2"

>> >>>>>>>>> >> unit="%"/>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> <define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_MAX_**CRUISE_THROTTLE"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="1.0"

>> >>>>>>>>> >> unit="%"/>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> <define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_LOITER_**TRIM" value="1500"

>> >>>>>>>>> >> unit="pprz_t"/>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> <define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_DASH_TRIM" value="-4000"

>> >>>>>>>>> unit="pprz_t"/>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> <define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_CLIMB_**THROTTLE_INCREMENT"

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> value="0.3"

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> >> unit="%/(m/s)"/>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> <define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_PGAIN" value="-0.008"

>> >>>>>>>>> unit="%/(m/s)"/> >> <define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_IGAIN"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="0.1"/> >> <define name="AUTO_THROTTLE_PITCH_OF_**

>> >>>>>>>>> VZ_PGAIN"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="0.1"

>> >>>>>>>>> >> unit="rad/(m/s)"/>  >>  >> <define name="AUTO_PITCH_PGAIN"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="-0.2"/>  >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="AUTO_PITCH_IGAIN" value="0.025"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> <define name="AUTO_PITCH_MAX_PITCH" value="0.5"/> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="AUTO_PITCH_MIN_PITCH" value="-0.5"/> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="THROTTLE_SLEW_LIMITER" value="2" unit="s"/> >>  >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="AUTO_AIRSPEED_SETPOINT" value="11.0" unit="m/s"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>  >> <define name="AUTO_AIRSPEED_PGAIN" value="0.060"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>  >> <define name="AUTO_AIRSPEED_IGAIN"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="0.050"/>  >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="AUTO_GROUNDSPEED_**SETPOINT" value="7.0" unit="m/s"/>

>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="AUTO_GROUNDSPEED_PGAIN" value="0.75"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="AUTO_GROUNDSPEED_IGAIN" value="0.25"/> >> </section>

>> >>>>>>>>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <section name="MISC"> >> <define name="NOMINAL_AIRSPEED"

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> value="14.0" unit="m/s"/> >> 

>> >>>>>>>>>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="CARROT" value="5." unit="s"/> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="KILL_MODE_DISTANCE"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="(1.5*MAX_DIST_FROM_**HOME)"/>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> <define name="CONTROL_RATE" value="60" unit="Hz"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="DEFAULT_CIRCLE_RADIUS" value="120."/> >>

>> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="UNLOCKED_HOME_MODE" value="FALSE"/>  >> <define name="RC_LOST_MODE"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="PPRZ_MODE_AUTO2"/> >> <define

>> name="ALT_KALMAN_ENABLED"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="TRUE"/> >> >> 

>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> </section> >> >> <section name="NAV"> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> name="NAV_PITCH"

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> value="0."/> >> <define name="NAV_GLIDE_PITCH_TRIM"

>> value="0"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> </section> >> >> <section name="AGGRESSIVE" prefix="AGR_">

>> >>>>>>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="BLEND_START" value="20"/> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> name="BLEND_END" value="10"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="CLIMB_THROTTLE" value="1.00"/> >> <define name="CLIMB_PITCH"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="0.5"/> >> <define name="DESCENT_THROTTLE"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="0.1"/> >>

>> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="DESCENT_PITCH" value="-0.25"/> >> <define name="CLIMB_NAV_RATIO"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="0.8"/> >> <define name="DESCENT_NAV_RATIO" value="1.0"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> </section> >> >> <section name="FAILSAFE"

>> >>>>>>>>> prefix="FAILSAFE_">

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <define name="DELAY_WITHOUT_GPS" value="5" unit="s"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <define name="DEFAULT_THROTTLE" value="0.3" unit="%"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="DEFAULT_ROLL" value="0.3" unit="rad"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="DEFAULT_PITCH" value="0.3" unit="rad"/> >> </section>

>> >>>>>>>>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>  >> >> >> <section

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>> name="XSENS">

>> >>>>>

>> >>>>>> 

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>  >>

>> >>>>>>>>> 

>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="INS_PITCH_NEUTRAL_**DEFAULT" value="0.0f"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> <define name="INS_ROLL_NEUTRAL_**DEFAULT" value="0.0f"/> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> </section> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> <section name="DIGITAL_CAMERA" prefix="DC_"> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> name="AUTOSHOOT_QUARTERSEC_**PERIOD" value="6"

>> >>>>>>>>> >> unit="quarter_second"/>

>> >>>>>>>>> >> <define name="AUTOSHOOT_METER_GRID" value="50"

>> >>>>>>>>> unit="meter"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> </section> >> >> <modules> >> <load

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> name="ins_xsens_MTiG_**fixedwing.xml">

>> >>>>>>>>> >> <configure name="XSENS_UART_NR" value="0"/> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="XSENS_BACKWARDS" /> >> </load> >> <load

>> >>>>>>>>> name="airspeed_ets.xml"> >> <define

>> name="AIRSPEED_ETS_SCALE"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="1.8"/> >> <define name="AIRSPEED_ETS_OFFSET"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="4"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>> <define name="AIRSPEED_ETS_I2C_DEV" value="i2c0"/> >>  >> </load> >> <load

>> >>>>>>>>> name="baro_ets.xml"> >> <define name="BARO_ETS_TELEMETRY"/>

>> >>>>>>>>>  >>

>> >>>>>>>>> </load> >> <load name="digital_cam.xml"> >> <define

>> >>>>>>>>> name="DC_SHUTTER_LED"

>> >>>>>>>>> value="5"/> >> <define name="POWER_SWITCH_LED" value="4"/>

>> >>>>>>>>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> </load> >>  >>

>> 

>> >>

>> >>>>>>>>> 

>> >>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>>  >> </modules> >> >> >> >> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>>>

>> >>>>>>>>>> </airframe> >>

>> >>>>>>>>>

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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 03:33:05 +0000

From: Eduardo lavratti <address@hidden>

To: Paparazzi developer forum <address@hidden>

Subject: [Paparazzi-devel] another fatal crash

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Whell, one more time the ppz fizedwing set throttle to 0 (zero) when i engaged AUTO2 mode.

the flywing stalled and crashed.

i think fixedwing ppz have a bug in throttle code.

i am using airspeed_ets.

when i engaged auto2 the altitude is greater than desired.

i will search and put a minimul throttle value in the ppz code.

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From:	Mitchell SLOWER
Subject:	Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Paparazzi-devel Digest, Vol 99, Issue 2
Date:	Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:29:13 +0200