Re: [Pan-users] I goofed, royally

[Beartooth]

On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:39:32 +0000, Duncan wrote:

> Beartooth posted on Sun, 01 Sep 2013 16:09:29 +0000 as excerpted:
        [....]
>> What am I doing wrong? Do I need to log out and back in? Reboot?
>> Or what??
> 
> Restarting pan should be enough, if it was a scorefile problem and you
> fixed it.
> 
> And the hint at the linked URL looks fine to me.  So if you understood
> and followed it you should be fine.
> 
> But your usage of the words "folder" and "subfolder" don't make sense at
> all to me in the context you used them.  So I'm not sure what exactly
> you actually did. =:^(
 
        I often misuse technical terms; but
 
> At first I thought "folder" meant "directory" -- in the filesystem.
> However, you state that you got into your News "folder", and added a
> "subfolder" containing the given content.
> 
> Except that if you meant (filesystem) "directory", then I'm left with
> the conclusion that you created FILES with *EXTREMELY* unusual names
> (like "[*]", what kind of a filename is that, and filenames with colons
> in them?
> ), since FILES are what DIRECTORIES contain.
> 
> If that is indeed what you did, then yes, IT WAS INDEED VERY WRONG!  But
> that's such a strange interpretation of the instructions on the linked
> page, with such VERY STRANGE filenames, if that's what you're making
> them, that I find it hard to believe you actually did what you're
> posting that you did.
> 
> Except then I'm left not knowing what you ACTUALLY did... tho I can
> /hope/ it was something close to what the instructions SAID to do, put
> that content in a FILE (not subdir/subfolder!).
> 
> Meanwhile, what the instructions SAID to do, and what I might have
> expected, was that in your News DIRECTORY (call it folder if you want,
> tho that has other meanings as well so it can be confusing), in the
> **FILE** called "Score", *NOT* in a *SUBDIRECTORY* of News called
> "Score" (or anything else), but in a *FILE* by the name of Score, thus,
> in the "~/News/Score" *FILE*, *NOT* *SUBDIRECTORY*, you create the
> section and score as described.
> 
> 
> Also note when you create the entry, there are TWO DIFFERENT entries,
> only one of which should work for pan.  Don't use the one with [.] as
> it's for xnews, which has a similar but not identical Score-file format.
> Use the one with [*].
> 
> 
> As for cleaning up, while pan will use, or possibly import from, the
> ~/News/Score file if it's there in ordered to be compatible with slrn,
> pan's native scorefile location is in the pan config directory, so by
> default ~/.pan2/Score .  If you put it in ~/News/Score (file not
> directory), pan may well have imported it from there into its local
> ~/.pan2/Score (file not directory), so when you cleaned up the original
> location, pan still had it imported, and to remove it, you now have to
> clean it from ~/.pan2/Score (or whatever other location you have pan
> using, via the PAN_HOME variable if it's set in pan's environment) as
> well.

        I think I fixed it, thanks to one of your clues.

        What I had done was copy the filter from the site, which was in 
four lines, thus:

[*]
Score:: =-9999
Message-ID: googlegroups
Message-ID: webtv

        Then I had simply pasted those four lines into /home/btth/News -- 
yes, with "[*]" -- because the site says "The first line in the filter 
rule tells slrn/Pan/Xnews to apply this rule to all groups. The asterisk 
or dot is a wild card. If you for some inconceivable reason wanted only 
to apply this Google Grouper rule to alt.even.worse.infestation.of.google-
groupers you would put that group's name between the brackets."

        On re-reading, your mention of ~/.pan2/Score enlightened me. I 
went there, and found two entries at the bottom that lacked the format of 
the rest. (One was essentially the four lines above, and the other 
something I had bungled while trying to get out of my own trap.)

        Then I closed and re-opened Pan, and the "-9999"s were all gone.

        Of course, there is still no Eternal September filter in there to 
block posts from google-groupers. I presume it would put something 
between %BOS and %EOS, each on its own line. But what that something 
should be (or should carefully exclude -- "created by Pan" maybe?) is 
still beyond me. To Redmond with it.

        Many, many thanks!

-- 
Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User
Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.