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Re: [Pan-users] A Couple UI questions

From: Duncan
Subject: Re: [Pan-users] A Couple UI questions
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:47:45 +0000 (UTC)
User-agent: Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2)

Andrew posted on Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:49:19 -0400 as excerpted:

> Hi, list.
> When browsing the header list in Pan with the up/down arrow keys, the
> message view pane doesn't load the currently-selected message. I'm not
> sure why -- it does when using ctrl-N/P. I would also like to map
> leftarrow/rightarrow to collapse/expand thread, but I see no way to do
> this.

Just using the arrow?  That shouldn't load the message, as arrow keys are 
used for navigation without selection/load.  (The ctrl/shift modifiers 
then allow traditional multi-select.)

You'd use (and assign shortcuts to) the next/previous-article and/or next/
previous unread article, in ordered to navigate that way, and/or the read-
more function (normally mapped to space).

It /may/ be possible to edit the accels.txt file to set arrow keys for 
shortcuts, but it won't be possible in the GUI, as they're reserved for 

> I usually set my newsreader to cache all new messages. In Pan, if I set
> preferences->actions->cache articles scoring at.... to [only new], it
> does cache articles as I enter each group, but it also marks them all
> read, which is not what I want. Not sure what's going on there.

That would be a bug in the still relatively new actions feature.  I'm 
actually not sure if it's fixed in the latest 0.139 or not.  Thanks very 
much for the report as that feature is new enough to need a bit of extra 
testing, and reporting when things don't work as expected.

(Auto-download would normally mark-read, since it simply automates pan's 
download-and-save functionality.  But auto-cache shouldn't, since it's 
just caching the messages.  However, caching for future going thru is not 
an intuitive mode for some people and it's somewhat obvious that pan's 
authors defaulted to direct download-and-save, so it's likely this action 
was created by simply omitting the save on the download action, only it 
doesn't omit the mark-read as it should.  But I've not done binaries in 
years so I've not tested the function here, altho it was my description 
of the long discussed auto-actions feature that Heinrich went on to 
implement it, and it's likely few enough others use it too...  But I /do/ 
seem to recall someone else mentioning it offhand, and it may actually be 
fixed in the latest 0.139, I don't know.)


> Pan version is .136. Any thoughts?

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