Re: [Pan-users] Re: How to remove MIME encoding?

[Loki Harfagr]

Le lundi 30 avril 2007, Vitaly Samourov a écrit :
> Hello,

  Please avoid top-posting it make threads much harder to follow than any 
cyrillic ;-)

  Now, as I understand you're having a more fatal issue with the chartables I
won't throw a flame nor a stone to you, not yet ;D)

> I have tested this (group preferences -> koi-8r), but it does not help.

  To this point, as you'll see in the quoted tests below, that's
really ***ODD*** ;-)

> Could the problem be here? -> Thunderbird uses my smtp server
> for outgoing posts, but Pan allows sending only via news server
> (Am I correct?)

  May Charles and Duncan be around at some time as I'm just one od the waterboys
and I don't know all of the "arcanes", I'd be inclined to say your theory's 
wrong
but the last two years of different declinations around $'[u?u{1,3}n?]stable' in
the LK devs made me doubt a little bit about my abilities on having an advice on
moving targets ;-) (please Charles and Duncan, note that was a joke
on LK dev line, not on Pan dev line ;-)

> 
> Maybe news server does a MIME re-encoding?

  I'd say that's pobably some relaying server that make your post a mess to
your destination server, now, why and how remain to be seen (and then burnt to 
the ground.)

> 
> Br
> -Vitali
> 
> * Loki Harfagr <address@hidden> [Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:33:11 +0200]:
...

  So, I had a try to reproduce the trouble you have and I sent two
nntp posts to my ISP server (sorry for Fido but I can't access it and
prolly wouldn't) and I'm sorrifully glad to have to say that all went
nicely without any re-char-setting and no headers were harmed during the
tests... (er. guess'z'tim't'hit'zee'sack)

  Here are the full traces of the two posts I made towards alt.test group
the 2 of them use the W.A.N.T.E.D.
------
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
------

  First post is plain usual 'all american char':

----------------------
Path: 
news.free.fr!xref-2.proxad.net!spooler3.proxad.net!spooler2c-1.proxad.net!cleanfeed3-b.proxad.net!nnrp2-1.free.fr!not-for-mail
From: "Gil de Too Rhett, Butler" <address@hidden>
Subject: koi koi koi
Newsgroups: alt.test
Reply-To: address@hidden
Organization: urgan.zoot
User-Agent: Pan/0.128 (SR/CL: Leitmotiv: Toynbee Idea)
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Date: 30 Apr 2007 21:30:45 GMT
Lines: 1
NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Apr 2007 23:30:45 MEST
NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.226.69.167
X-Trace: 1177968645 news-3.free.fr 19592 82.226.69.167:34104
X-Complaints-To: address@hidden
Xref: news.free.fr alt.test:865068

just a blunt plane in the dark
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  Second one is a FU with some of your precedent extended set text:

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Path: 
news.free.fr!xref-2.proxad.net!spooler3.proxad.net!spooler2c-1.proxad.net!cleanfeed1-a.proxad.net!nnrp2-1.free.fr!not-for-mail
From: Alan Margino <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: koi koi koi
Newsgroups: alt.test
References: <address@hidden>
Organization: unorganized.nation
Reply-to: address@hidden
User-Agent: Pan/0.128 (SR/CL: Leitmotiv: Toynbee Idea)
Message-ID: <address@hidden>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Date: 30 Apr 2007 21:35:11 GMT
Lines: 8
NNTP-Posting-Date: 30 Apr 2007 23:35:11 MEST
NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.226.69.167
X-Trace: 1177968911 news-3.free.fr 19592 82.226.69.167:34104
X-Complaints-To: address@hidden
Xref: news.free.fr alt.test:865069

One dull day if ever some lost imp scratched :

> just a blunt plane in the dark

  First one got its charcodes right!

  Now with a certified 'koi-r' load
Рамблер-Объявления - прямой доступ к базе газеты Из Рук в Руки!
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  Hope some other lost soul will help you while I'm counting cards/sheep/pills

Cheers :-)