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Re: Help with Gmail

From: norm
Subject: Re: Help with Gmail
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 07:51:46 -0800

Ken Hornstein <address@hidden> writes:
>>Is there somewhere that the basic ideas of using nmh with Gmail are discu=
>>Thank you very much, as they say, in advance.
>Ralph has given you some of the basics, but at least as far as you are
>concerned, Gmail will behave like pretty much any other email provider
>(there are some fancy authentication options, but they are not required).
>The basics: You will retrieve messages from GMail via POP; you will send
>messages to GMail via SMTP.  The specific connection settings are here:
>You can either choose to have nmh directly retrieve the messages with
>POP (using inc(1)) and send the messages via SMTP (using send/post)
>directly to GMail, or have other tools do that for you.  If you want to
>use nmh directly, this is the appropriate place to ask about that.
>To translate the settings on that web page, look at the inc(1) and send(1)
>man pages; you want the -host, -port, -user, -sasl options.  When it comes
>to TLS, there's a bit of confusion here on the termology.  If you need
>to negotiate TLS at the beginning of the connection, you want the
>-initialtls option.  This is sometimes called "SSL", which is even more
>confusing.  If you want to negotiate TLS after the connection has started,
>you want the -tls option.  This is sometimes called "STARTTLS" or just
>"TLS".  You also probably want to use the -snoop flag to help you debug
>things.  You can use the better authentication options that require the
>use of mhlogin, but I think maybe right now that might be a little too
>much to deal with.
>If you are using other tools to connect to GMail, well, I would just humbl=
>point out that those are not nmh tools and this MIGHT not be the right
>mailing list to ask about them.

I now fetch my mail using fetchmail. But I have no particular brief for
fetchmail. I don't remember why I started using it more than 20 years ago.
Probably because I didn't know any better.

    Norman Shapiro

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