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Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime.
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Jon Steinhart |
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Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime. |
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Wed, 18 Jan 2017 20:37:24 -0800 |
Ralph Corderoy writes:
> Hi Jon,
>
> > I do think that your example above is sort of bogus; whatnow does not
> > provide full shell functionality so you can't do things like that
> > anyway.
>
> It's not bogus as it happened to me in normal use, that's how I found
> the problem. whatnow isn't a full shell, but that doesn't matter.
> Neither are text editors, debuggers, FTP clients, `gawk -l filefuncs',
> etc. All of these can offer `cd' and not have whatnow's bug.
>
> > If I do "more foo" and "!cd bar" and then quit "more" I'm not in "bar"
>
> Correct. And more(1) was never in bar. This starts a subshell and that
> changes directory and then exits. more(1) doesn't have a built-in `cd'
> so it's not relevant here.
>
> I don't think you've understood the problem I'm complaining about. :-)
> It has nothing to do with whatnow not affecting the parent shell, during
> or after exit.
>
> whatnow offers two commands, `ls' and `mime'. Both are available at the
> same prompt. `cd' affects `ls' and not `mime'. Normal Unix programs
> that offer a built-in `cd' don't have it affect only some of the
> subsequent commands. That's because they implement `cd' with chdir(2).
> whatnow doesn't, and this pretence is imperfect so bites the user.
Well, the whole purpose of adding the attachment stuff was to get rid of
mime. I guess that I didn't understand your use case because it's not a
case that I ever considered and didn't design for. If I understand you
correctly, attach works because I stick in the absolute path of the
attachments, and mime doesn't because it doesn't. Again, not a use case
that I care about, if you do you know where the source code lives. I
have *never* used composition file stuff in the years since I added the
attachment code.
So to be clear, I only added cd to make it easier for people to use attach.
Jon
- [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime., Ralph Corderoy, 2017/01/17
- Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime., David Levine, 2017/01/17
- Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime., Jon Steinhart, 2017/01/17
- Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime., Ralph Corderoy, 2017/01/18
- Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime., Jon Steinhart, 2017/01/18
- Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime., Ralph Corderoy, 2017/01/18
- Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime.,
Jon Steinhart <=
- Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime., Paul Fox, 2017/01/19
- Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime., Ralph Corderoy, 2017/01/19
- Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime., David Levine, 2017/01/18
- Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime., Ralph Corderoy, 2017/01/19
Re: [Nmh-workers] whatnow(1)'s cd Doesn't Affect it's mime., Ralph Corderoy, 2017/01/18