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Re: Recent m4 CVS changes

From: Ted Stern
Subject: Re: Recent m4 CVS changes
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 08:39:54 -0700
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On 5 Sep 2003, Gary V. Vaughan wrote:
> Hi Ted,
> Ted Stern wrote:
>> In about May of 2002, I forwarded to Gary some information about the M5
>> project, some code developed by a now-deceased CS professor, Dain Samples,
>> about a decade ago (pre GNU m4).  I notice in recent GNU m4 CVS ChangeLog
>> entries that there has been a flurry of feature addition in June and July.
>> Some of it is reminiscent of the M5 stuff I forwarded.  I was curious
>> whether it was something that you all had been developing independently or
>> whether you were inspired by the ideas in the M5 document -- I'd like to
>> hope so!
> Absolutely.  There are some excellent ideas in Prof. Samples papers
> which definitely improve upon the usability of M4.  My current plans
> are to get a new release out the door as soon as possible, and then
> look at enhancing the core of GNU m4 as necessary to support a
> loadable M5 module that implements as much as practicable of M5.

I started reading the m4-discuss list (somebody really needs to update


by the way) and the cvs update list and I see that you're plugging away
diligently toward that goal.  I'm looking forward to the release.

>> In any case, if you haven't done so already, it might be nice to add an
>> acknowledgement of Dain Samples' influence.  Especially since the only
>> other references to M5 that I turned up were in some Microsoft Research
>> papers (who knows what else they do with it?  They certainly don't tell
>> anybody when they're stealing ideas) -- with the recent SCO brouhaha, it
>> couldn't hurt to establish a tie to pre-existing public domain code.
> I haven't added any acknowledgements, but will be certain to do so
> well in advance of any release that uses Prof. Sample's work.
> Cheers,
>       Gary.

Thanks for the clarifications!

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