Travis,
I have changed this question.
Please hear whatever you need to hear so you will choose to stop trying to
justify your contribution, answering a question which as I illustrated is
not what the person seeks.
For the record, I have a work associate here in Toronto using a 2011
macbook pro to run their business.
So again, that you are not actively engaged in running Lynx on your mac
with a braille display means that your contribution is not going to help
Andrew.
On Wed, 22 Jun 2022, Travis Siegel wrote:
> I actually do have a macbook, but it's a 2013 model, so it doesn't have
> the latest version of macos on it, which is why I said (assuming the
> finder menus haven't changed). Everything else I said is 100 percent
> accurate.
>
> Lynx can easily be compiled on the mac if one wishes to do so.
>
> There are also projects like mac ports and others who do the compiling
> for you (although generally not as a native mac executable), that will
> give you a binary version of a program. I also explained that using one
> of these package systems once trashed my mac, and it may not be the
> option you would want to use.
>
> I also answered the question about how to run it from finder, with an
> explanation that a script might be necessary to create the environment
> you want, because I don't know if the latest version of mac os uses the
> same environment you'd get if you ran it from the terminal.
>
> All of these things are helpful to someone who knows what is being
> spoken about. If that isn't you, then simply pass along the message,
> and perhaps the original poster will have enough knowledge to use the
> information.
>
> Again, I'm not knocking anyone here, but if you don't have the technical
> knowledge to understand the answer, that doesn't make the answer wrong.
>
> You then tried to make it look like I was deliberately misunderstanding
> the question, by stating something from the original conversation that
> had not been mentioned in your original post. I also answered that
> question, albeit in a way that probably wasn't very nice, although it
> too was a 100 percent correct answer.
>
> I say again, if you don't like the answers you're getting, perhaps it
> means you aren't asking the right questions.
>
> I have never set out to deliberately offer false or misleading
> information. Sometimes my answers may not be what the question
> specifically asks, but it's always at least informational, and (usually)
> allows the original poster to obtain the required information if only
> said person knows enough to understand the answer. I don't know the
> knowledge level of the person asking the question, (neither does anyone
> else on the list), so you have to expect answers that aren't always
> going to be what you expect, even if they are correct.
>
> I freely admit that sometimes I answer the question you asked, instead
> of the one you intended, even if the question you intended is
> understandable, because I am trying to get you to understand that asking
> the correct question is as important as obtaining the desired answer.
>
> I don't apologize for my answers, just as you shouldn't apologize for
> your questions, again, if you don't like (or understand) the answers,
> it's easy enough to restate the question or provide additional
> information that can clarify the question, then you generally get closer
> to the answer you want.
>
> I do this, because I think it's important that folks ask the question
> they want answered, not the question they think will provide the answer
> they want. A minor but important difference.
>
> I've seen mailing list discussions go on for months sometimes just
> because someone didn't ask the proper question.
>
> Like I said, I'm guessing the question that the original person wanted
> answered is what's the latest version of lynx that is already compiled
> and can be downloaded and run on the mac w/no work, and where can it be
> obtained.
>
> That isn't what was asked, so I answered the question that was asked.
>
> Simple.
>
>
> On 6/22/2022 9:03 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > Travis,
> > By your own admission you do not have a working mac computer.
> > While I appreciate what you believe you are doing, my hope was that
> > someone directly involved with using Lynx in this system, now,
> > currently,
> > can answer this question.
> > You may believe you are helping, but speaking personally, you are
> > not
> > contributing to an actual meaningful answer.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 22 Jun 2022, Travis Siegel wrote:
> >
> > > In that case, the answer is:
> > > > Lynx is a text-based web browser, and the mac equivalent is
> > (wait for > it)...
> > > > Lynx.
> > > > On 6/22/2022 8:29 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > no, that was not the question at all.
> > > > In fact, this person has a Braille display and cannot get
> > voice > > dream
> > > > reader for the mac to work well.
> > > > i shared how I use lynx, load the .xml file provided by
> > bookshare > > and save
> > > > it as a text file, stating clearly that I am not using
> > > > the
> > mac > > to do
> > > > this, or using braille at all.
> > > > Their question was.
> > > > Karen, what is lynx, and what is the mac equivalent?
> > > > So, probably for a conversation to which you are not a party
> > > > indeed
> > > > makes things complicated...and a longer thread.
> > > > karen
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Jun 2022, Travis Siegel wrote:
> > > > > > > The simple answer is that the latest version of lynx
> > available > > for mac > is the same exact version of lynx
> > available for any other > > platform, > (whatever that may be at
> > the time of asking).
> > > > > > My answer was simply an explanation of how versions that
> > were > > not posted > on the web site (if indeed they were posted)
> > could be > > created for the > mac.
> > > > > > Not trying to be difficult here, but the question the
> > original > > person > probably wanted to know is:
> > > > > > What version of lynx is posted on the official site for
> > > > > > OSX.
> > > > > > Since that wasn't the question actually presented, I
> > simply > > answered how > the original poster could obtain the
> > latest version > > of lynx with some > information about having
> > trouble with a > > particular package system, > thereby warning them
> > they could use > > said system, but that it might cause > them
> > problems.
> > > > > > Nothing says you have to like the answer I gave, but to be
> > > > perfectly > fair, it is a valid answer, whether you like the
> > answer > > or not.
> > > > > > > On 6/22/2022 7:59 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > > > Travis,
> > > > > > As expressed, this question is not for me, with your
> > answers > > far > > afield
> > > > > > from the simple information sought.
> > > > > > on the lynx.browser.org page mac os x is listed as an
> > option, > > with > > my
> > > > > > recalling a list member getting help using that edition
> > for > > > > site
> > > > > > testing.
> > > > > > However, that does not tell me what the current lynx
> > edition > > is for > > mac,
> > > > > > which is the question I was asked.
> > > > > > best,
> > > > > > Karen
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Jun 2022, Travis Siegel wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Been a while since I had a working mac, but last
> > time I > > did, > > compiling > one from source was trivial, and
> > caused no > > issues. (this > > is almost > always how I handle
> > opensource > > software), especially > > since on mac, the >
> > macports they have > > that is supposed to make things > > easier
> > trashed my > machine > > once, so I will never use that > >
> > particular cludge again. On the > > > other hand, the lynx
> > download > > page does have various > > versions, though I >
> > don't know if there's > > one there for mac > > or not.
> > > > > > > > As far as putting it into a section on the finder
> > menus, > > that's > > easy > enough (assuming it hasn't
> > changed), just use > > root access to > > copy the > program to
> > the folder in question, > > and problem solved. On > > the other
> > > hand, since it's a terminal > > program, you may need to > >
> > create a script to > launch it with > > the particular environment
> > you > > want, as I'm not sure if > it > > picks up the terminal
> > defaults when > > being launched from finder.
> > > > > > > > Probably doesn't answer the question, but it may give
> > > > enough > > for the > original poster to figure out what's > >
> > enough > > necessary.
> > > > > > > > > On 6/22/2022 10:26 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > > > > > A question from the voiceover list to which I
> > > > > > > > belong.
> > > > > > > > I recall that there is a lynx compile for mac os X
> > but am > > > > unsure of > > how
> > > > > > > > updated. Also can lynx be say added to the
> > > > > > > > browser
> > > > > > applications > > folder,
> > > > > > > > or must it be run in terminal?
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Karen
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
>
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