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Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching gmail in basic html?


From: Karen Lewellen
Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching gmail in basic html?
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 12:59:52 -0500 (EST)

To be sure, that would explain how the problem happened in the first place. because this is a research account, I have it opened at libraries by people assisting in that research all the time. However, they would simply log out of their standard gmail sessions. Google started thinking those devices were mine, in fact I stopped getting security warnings the last couple of times. so, once this issue is fixed I will have to develop a different plan for managing research, but one fire dance at a time.
there are no words for how appreciative I am for a possible solution!
Kare



On Thu, 7 Nov 2019, Alejandro Lieber wrote:

That's correct.

I think it's not important if the account is new or old. It depends how you logged out the last time with a graphical browser.

Alejandro Lieber

Rosario Argentina

On 7/11/19 14:10, Karen Lewellen wrote:
 Okay, this I can test.
 One question to be absolutely sure.
 The person doing this for me must first log into my gmail  account in a
 graphical  browser.  Then, they must choose to read  in basic html and
 log out  in the basic html  session.  yes the password is requested
 twice, I go through that doing so  in elinks and links.
 Once they log out  perhaps even saving basic html as my preference?, I
 should  get back in again.
  will try this evening posting my results.
 In fact, this explains how the problem likely started in  the first
 place.
 thanks!


 On Thu, 7 Nov 2019, Alejandro Lieber wrote:

>  Karen:
>  My experience is that:
> > 1)- If you log out of a session of gmail using the GMAIL STANDARD net > view version using Firefox or Chrome, you will NOT BE able to open it > again with a text browser without Java-scripts. > > 2)- if you log out  a session of gmail using the "GMAIL HTML FOR SLOW > CONNECTIONS" version option at the botton of the page, using Firefox or > Chrome, you will BE able to open it again ad infinitum with a text > browser WITHOUT Java-scripts. You will be asked TWICE for the password. > > 3)- If you don't have a graphic browser, you'll have to give your email > password  to > someone you trust to configure GMAIL in graphic mode, the only way it > can be done. > > Alejandro Lieber
>  Rosario  Argentina
> > On 6/11/19 22:11, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> >  as expressed more than once, I can still reach my  first and older
> >   gmail account with lynx in basic html, do this several times a day.
> >  To be sure, perhaps only  newer accounts are generating the > > problem. > >  Fully realizing that alpine  quality strongly flows from talent, we > > have > >  it via dreamhost for  my office e-mail.  It times out while > > reading
> >   items several times a day and crashes regularly...likely tied to the
> >   dreamhost shell configuration more than anything else.
> > > > > > > >  On Wed, 6 Nov 2019, dan d. wrote: > > > > > >   Alpine is another text only cli mail client that can pull down > > gmail >  with an imap or pop connection.  It is configured in the > > alpine setup >  section.
> > > >   I'm reading this message via that approach.
> > > >   I have had an email account for some years and it still allows > > lynx >  access.  I think at some fairly recent point existing > > accounts were
> > >   grandfathered in and new accounts refused using lynx.
> > > >   On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > >   shellworld?
> > > >   I have no idea, as I have not needed to look.
> > > >   How does mutt manage the need for a browser, to follow e-mail > > links > >   for
> > > >   example?
> > > > > > > > > >   On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > > > > > >   Has that shell service got mutt available?  Reason I ask > > is mutt > > >  can be > > > > >   used to read and reply to gmail once set up correctly and > > there's > > >  lots
> > > > >   of support for setting it up with gmail on the internet.
> > > > > > > >   On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > > > > > >   Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:02:47
> > > > > >   From: Karen Lewellen <address@hidden>
> > > > > >   To: Mouse <address@hidden>
> > > > > >   Cc: address@hidden
> > > > > >   Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] reaching gmail in basic html?
> > > > > > > > > >   The Thunderbird story is interesting because prior > > to  now I > > > > could use elinks > > > > > >   and links, which both can incorporate JavaScript to reach > > my > > > >   research   gmail
> > > > > >   account.
> > > > > >   They no longer allow it though because google claims it is > > not the > > > >  right kind
> > > > > >   of JavaScript.
> > > > > >   Generally speaking I too would love learning how this is > > done.  > > > >  Presently > > > > > >   although I use DOS, the only internet access I have comes > > from  > > > >  using a dos > > > > > >   ssh  telnet client to a shell service. Nothing from my > > desktop.
> > > > > >   so  please share more details all the way around.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Mouse wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >   gmail supports POP3 and IMAP access,
> > > > > > > > > > > >   My experience is that gmail supports POP and > > IMAP only if you > > > > >  are using > > > > > > >   one of a few blessed clients, all of which are huge > > crawling GUI > > > > > > >   horrors.  Sometimes not even then; for example, back when > > I was > > > > >  fussing > > > > > > >   with mail for work, gmail refused to talk to the > > Thunderbird > > > > >   that was > > > > > > >   installed on my work laptop, claiming its encryption was > > > > > > > insufficient > > > > > > >   in some (unspecified, as far as I can recall) respect. So > > I was > > > > >  forced > > > > > > >   onto the HTML interface.  I've been using lynx with the > > basic > > > > >   HTML view > > > > > > >   and it's been working for me, but perhaps I'm just being > > > > > > > grandfathered;
> > > > > > >   I haven't meddled with the settings in quite a while now.
> > > > > > > > > > > >   I really wish that job would move their mail to > > somewhere > > > > >   civilized. > > > > > > > > > > > > >   and it appears there are old versions of > > Pegasus Mail > > > > > >  available, that > > > > > > > >   run on MS-DOS and support these with no Windows > > environment > > > > > > present. > > > > > > > > > > > >   If one of them works, great, but don't be too > > surprised if gmail > > > > >  isn't > > > > > > >   interested in talking to clients that old.  (If it does > > work, > > > > >  please > > > > > > >   mention it here; I'd like to try again if it appears > > they've > > > > >  relaxed
> > > > > > >   the stringency of their stance.)
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