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Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon?

From: Karen Lewellen
Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon?
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 12:42:31 -0400 (EDT)

Oh I can top that
the sign in page has no alt tags letting you know where to place e-mail address or password, and is 15 pages long with no functional links on almost all of them.

On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Jude DaShiell wrote:

If you can't get past the graphical captcha that accessible page is

On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 12:29:43
From: Karen Lewellen <address@hidden>
To: Jude DaShiell <address@hidden>
Cc: Alejandro Lieber <address@hidden>, address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon?

Your comment about the cell phone is quite important, because amazon is
presenting  the page for  those wanting a simplified
experience, stating it is comparative to the mobile one.
Alejandro, I echo  Jude's question about the audio challenge, since others
here even without using a screen reader, cannot play it.
Likewise I take it amazon is accepting all of your lynx cookies?  You are not
getting the error requesting that you turn cookies  on?
lastly, which ms dos are you running, and how did you install that edition of
Lynx?  My understanding was that there were windows binaries only, not dos
While I do not   wish to  make this about the use of screen readers, I am
interested if your experience differs from those reported by others  where
this amazon issue is concerned.

On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Jude DaShiell wrote:

I'm sure it does, you don't use a screen reader though which means you
have no trouble with the captcha.  Have you tried playing the audio
challenge and if so were you able to hear it?  What's happening with
lynx and amazon is also happening on cell phones too.  I did a factory
reset on the cell phone and accessibility won't be enabled until Staff
comes over and turns it on for me.

On Mon, 2 Sep 2019, Alejandro Lieber wrote:

Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 07:00:13
From: Alejandro Lieber <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Lynx-dev] lynx and amazon?


I use LYNX ver 2.9.0dev.1 in my MSDOS computer with a 40MHz Cyrix 486DLC
and 8
MBy RAM and yellow Hercules monitor. Works great.

Alejandro Lieber

A port for MSDOS, by Ju?n Manuel Guerrero:

"This is a port of Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 to MSDOS/DJGPP.

? DJGPP specific changes.
? =======================
? This port is based on the current develop code of lynx (aka
? available as:

? The code has been adjusted to detect at runtime if LFN support is
? or not.? If LFN support is available then the original posix style file
? names will be used else DOS compatible ones will be used.

? The port will use cp850 as default code page instead of using iso-8859-1
? it is in the current code.? It is clear that having iso-8859-1 on plain
? as character set is useless as soon as spanish, german or other
? texts shall be displayed.? You can always select another character set by
? either setting the corresponding environment variable or by editing
? acordingly.

? The current version of lynx requires that the HOME environment variable
? set to a writable directory or it will refuse to start.? To alleviate
? situation, if HOME is not set, the current directory will be used instead
? by this port version.

? The port has been configured using the configure script provided by the
? source package.? This means that neither old DJGPP specific scripts nor
? makefiles distributed by the package have been used.? A lot of the
? work has been invested in the DJGPP specific configuration scripts.

? This port has been configured to be compiled with BZIP2, ZIP and PDCURSES
? support.? This means that if you want to recompile the preconfigured
? you must have installed the following ports:

? The port has been configured and build without NLS support enabled.
? To enable this feature, the latest ports of libiconv and gettext must be
? installed:
? If you prefer NLS, then reconfigure the sources passing the nls flag to
? config.bat file.

? The port has been configured with OPENSSL support.? OpenSSL support
? installing the WATT-32 port.? The following ports have been used:
? No other versions have been tested.? To be able to use this program
? with OpenSSL and WATT-32 a noise source must be installed.? A noise
? can be obtained as:
? If for some reason you decide to reconfigure the source package, then you
? will have to set the WATT_ROOT environment variable to point to the
? directory where the headers and the library reside.? This is:
??? set WATT_ROOT=/dev/env/DJDIR/net/watt

? To be able to run the program, configuration files are expected to be
? at their canonical place.? This is the /dev/env/DJDIR/etc directory.? The
? configuration files lynx.cfg and lynx.css are stored in the /etc
? and reflect, to certain extent, the conditions during the configuration
? compilation process of this port.? You may need to adjust the entries to
? your requiriments.? If lynx.cfg and lynx.css are not found at their
? place then the program will try to load them from the installation
? of lynx.? To run the program, a working version of wattcp.cfg is
? This file is __NOT__ distributed with this port.? That file will reflect
? your network environment and hardware.? It is the user's job write
one that
? matches his environment.? As a starting point you can use the one
? with the WATT-32 port.? Please note that the location of wattcp.cfg must
? specified by setting the WATTCP.CFG environment variable.? This can be
? either in the environment, in autoexec.bat or in djgpp.env.? If the file
? cannot be found at any of the canonical places the program will try
to load
? it from the installation directory of lynx.

? To be able to run the program, a DOS packet driver (PKTDRVR) is required.
? This may be obtained from the card manufacturer or from one of the
? of packet drivers (such as
? or
? Even when only browsing local files, a NULLPKT packet driver is required
? The zip file can be downloaded as:

? The lynx executable itself handles http:, https:, ftp:, file:, news:,
? and gopher: protocols. You will need external programs if you want to
? telnet:, tn3270:, or mailto: URLs.? In this case a port of kermit may be
? required.

? Please note that lynx does _NOT_ support javascript at all.? So nothing
? work that requires this feature.? If you need this, look for a different
? web browser.

? It is important to realize that this port is a _PURE_ DOS port.? If for
? reason you want to use lynx under Windows, you should download a windows
? of lynx.

? If you decide to use this port as stand alone program then you can set
? following environment variables to point to the required configuration
??? LYNX_CFG????? Set to the full path and filename for lynx.cfg
??? LYNX_LSS????? Set to the full path and filename for lynx.lss
??? WATTCP.CFG??? Set to the full path for the WATTCP.CFG directory
??? SSL_CERT_FILE Set to the full path and filename for your file of
????????????????? trusted certificates
? As a last resort, if the above environment variables are not set, the
? program will try to load those files from its installation directory.
? There is also a batch file stored in the /share/lynx_doc/samples
? that shows how to run lynx as a stand alone application.

? The DJGPP port now checks the OS version it is running on.? If it is
? or less than MSDOS 6.22 the double quotes around the file name passed to
? will be removed.? If this is not done, refuses to
? For OS like Win95 and above this is not necessary.? is the
? used by lynx at last resort.? The program's behaviour is not changed if
? editor different from is selected in lynx.cfg.

? The DJGPP port now checks if LFN support is available.? If available then
? files with a leading dot are allowed/supported in case that this has been
? allowed by setting NO_DOT_FILES to FALSE in lynx.cfg.? In all previous
? versions, the setting of this value had absolute no influence in
? behavior if compiled with DJGPP.

? When connecting to a site via https, lynx will require that a file of
? trusted certificates is available.? It is your's responsability to
? such a file and the port will _NEVER_ provide one.? This .PEM file is
? using openssl tools.? Read the openssl documentation.? A working linux
? installation provides always one.? It may be found by its name
? or similar.? In the end it must be a file in PEM format.? Store it where
? like and point to it by setting the corresponding lynx environment
? like this:
??? set SSL_CERT_FILE=/dev/env/DJDIR/share/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.pem
? Of course the value propossed is arbitrary and reflects the way I
have done
? it for my own installation of lynx.? A starting point for reading about
? to create your own PEM files is:
? It describes how to create one using the trusted certificates provide by
? microsoft IE.

? I have tested this port by trying to access all sites that are listed in:
? and I have experienced no issues.? I have also accessed some german and
? spanish sites to check if the special native characters are correctly
? displayed and I have found no issues.? I have also accessed
? to check if the ftp support works well and if the cvs repository can be
? accessed via cvsweb interface and everthing works flawlessly. Of course,
? the mail archives can also be accessed without issues.

? Please note that I am not a lynx user.? I have ported it as a real world
? test for the OpenSSL and WATT-32 ports.

? Only to make this point clear, if you want to use lynx as a stand alone
? program without having to care about environment variables, copy
? lynx.cfg and lynx.lss into the same directory and it will work. When
? the .PEM file it must be renamed to "cert.pem".? This is mandatory or it
? not be found!

? As usual, all djgpp specific files (diffs, README files, etc.) are stored
? in the /djgpp directory.? The sources have been configured to be build in
? the "_build" directory.? If for some reason it does not work for you,
? delete it contents and configure from scratch again.

? Please read the docs very __CAREFULLY__ to become familiar with the

? Here is an extract of the CHANGES file showing the user visible changes
? the last port (Lynx 2.9.0dev.1) to this one:


2019-08-26 (2.9.0dev.4)
* revert change to port-handling in 2.9.0dev.3 changes for gophermap
? Martijn Dekker).
* add ro.po, update de.po, et.po, tr.po, vi.po from

2019-08-25 (2.9.0dev.3)
* modify gophermap menu-parsing to handle "h" HTML selectors similarly to
? command-line parsing, which avoids hex-encoding the parameter delimiters
? "?", "=", ";" as well as "#" (report by Tobias Girstmair) -TD
* make redirection-limit configurable, defaulting to 10 -TD
* remove alert when relative base href is seen, since HTML5 allows for this
? (report by Sylvain Bertrand) -TD
* modify lynx.iss to use statically-linked bzip2 and gzip programs, and to
? eliminate a spurious warning when attempting to remove an optional DLL
* fix a few coverity warnings -TD
* revise HTSimplify to eliminate a redundant "." segment at the beginning
of a
? path, referring to RFC 3986 5.2.4 (report by Alejandro Lieber) -TD

2019-07-31 (2.9.0dev.2)
* improved several configure macros, including workaround for non-POSIX
? issue with BSDs.
* fix typo in iso15_uni.tbl (Robert Bell)
* update de.po from
* update config.guess (2019-06-10), config.sub (2019-06-30)


? The port consists of the usual three packages that have been produced
? djdev205 (CVS repository code) and can be downloaded from
? and mirrors as (time stamp 2019-08-31):

??? Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 binaries, scripts and man format documentation:

??? Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 html format documentation and sample files:

??? Lynx 2.9.0dev.4 source:

? Send Lynx utils specific bug reports to <address@hidden>.
? Send suggestions and bug reports concerning the DJGPP port to
? comp.os.msdos.djgpp or <address@hidden>.


??? Guerrero, Juan Manuel <address@hidden>

On 1/9/19 00:18, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Thomas, Ian,
Thomas I? personally can do nothing whatsoever with the snapshop. because
of? how I use a computer,? and the lack of pure dos compiles of Lynx
recently, my only access to the browser, or to the internet in general
comes? via? using ssh telnet to reach shellworld.
Ian, if you choose to access this snapshot, can you test for improvements?
I will likely have to wait first for its incorporation into a lynx
then? to how? these changes might be incorporated into shellworld before I
Regardless I am reporting to Amazon, so a test of some kind will be

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