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Re: lynx-dev HTML4.0 and default charset
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David Woolley |
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Re: lynx-dev HTML4.0 and default charset |
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Mon, 1 Mar 1999 08:28:17 +0000 (GMT) |
> The most logical way to have servers configured properly :-)
> IMO, charset parameter should be always specified when document
> have characters >128. Unfortunately, http/html specs keep compatibility
Unfortunately this is unrealistic because:
1) Many web server operators don't understand such things (the web
server is a way to make money/retain customers, not something to
understand);
2) Most content providers don't understand such things, even when they
do have access to meta data (after all, it works on their GUI
browser);
3) Many, if not most pages, by volume, are on some sort of "free" space
where users have no access to meta data;
4) Although META headers are supposed to control the server, I have
seen little evidence of this, and a lot of evidence that they
are controlling the browser instead - in any case a variation of
item 2 applies, as these are normally set to the Windows Western
European proprietory character set, by the authoring tools, even
if ASCII or ISO 8859/1 would have been sufficient (I presume
Japanese versions of Front Page use a different default).
> with very old browsers which does not understand charset parameter
> and even can not ignore it (and such browsers are obviously broken
Such browsers, apart from HTTP 0.9 browsers, have always been broken.
> for any modern HTML in any case). That is the root of the problem.
You are shooting yourself in the foot here; most content providers would
probably define modern browsers as NS 4.x or IE 4/5 with JavaScript,
Java and probably Win32 ActiveX turned on. They certainly wouldn't
include Lynx; Lynx survives at all because some people follow the spirit
of HTML and write universal HTML.
- lynx-dev HTML4.0 and default charset, Alan J. Flavell, 1999/02/28
- Re: lynx-dev HTML4.0 and default charset, Leonid Pauzner, 1999/02/28
- Re: lynx-dev HTML4.0 and default charset,
David Woolley <=
- Re: lynx-dev HTML4.0 and default charset, Leonid Pauzner, 1999/03/02
- Re: lynx-dev HTML4.0 and default charset, David Woolley, 1999/03/04
- Re: lynx-dev HTML4.0 and default charset, Leonid Pauzner, 1999/03/04
- Re: lynx-dev HTML4.0 and default charset, David Woolley, 1999/03/06
- Re: lynx-dev HTML4.0 and default charset, Klaus Weide, 1999/03/07
- Re: lynx-dev HTML4.0 and default charset, David Woolley, 1999/03/10
Re: lynx-dev HTML4.0 and default charset, Klaus Weide, 1999/03/01