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Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?


From: Valentin Petzel
Subject: Re: What is the meaning of a mordent on top of a sharp sign?
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 18:13:37 +0200

Hello Ken, hello William,

instead of doing the thing in the documentation, which is quite unstable, I’d 
suggest to directly modify the stencil as in the appended file.

Actually I’m planning to implement this properly at some point (i.e. 
transposable), but I haven’t found the time yet.

Cheers,
Valentin

Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2022, 06:39:48 CEST schrieb Kenneth Wolcott:
> Hi William;
> 
>   Looks like I need to read more slowly :-)  I see now that my
> question was indeed precisely covered in the documentation.
> 
> Thank *you*. :-)
> Ken
> 
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 9:29 PM William Rehwinkel
> 
> <william@williamrehwinkel.net> wrote:
> > No problem Ken. Sorry about that, I made the following example: (note
> > that this would not play in midi playback)
> > 
> > \version "2.22.2"
> > 
> > shMordentUp = \markup { \center-column {\musicglyph "scripts.mordent"
> > \musicglyph "accidentals.sharp" }}
> > shMordentDo = \markup { \center-column {\musicglyph "accidentals.sharp"
> > \musicglyph "scripts.mordent" }}
> > 
> > \score {
> > 
> >      \relative c'' {
> >      
> >          c4^\shMordentUp
> >          c4_\shMordentDo
> >      
> >      }
> > 
> > }
> > 
> > Also note this example from
> > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-att
> > ached-to-notes
> > 
> > \relative c''' {
> > 
> >    \once \override TextScript.script-priority = #-100
> >    a2^\prall^\markup { \sharp }
> >    
> >    \once \override Script.script-priority = #-100
> >    a2^\prall^\markup { \sharp }
> > 
> > }
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > -William
> > 
> > On 6/28/22 00:23, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > > Hi William;
> > > 
> > >    Thank you, now I have a meaning.
> > >    
> > >    What remains (that I did not specify) is how to engrave this?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ken
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 8:51 PM William Rehwinkel
> > > 
> > > <william@williamrehwinkel.net> wrote:
> > >> That symbol means that the lower note is sharped. So it would be g-f#-g
> > >> instead of g-fnatural-g. See
> > >> https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/86043/would-an-accidental-in-> 
> > >> > >> a-mordant-still-be-effective-for-the-whole-measure> >> 
> > >> On 6/27/22 23:13, Kenneth Wolcott wrote:
> > >>> Hi;
> > >>> 
> > >>>     I'm trying to engrave a Piano arrangement of JS Bach, Six Little
> > >>> 
> > >>> Preludes, Nr 1, where the left hand notes have a strange thing I've
> > >>> never seen before, a mordent on top of a sharp sign.
> > >>> 
> > >>>     I've never seen these symbols together in this manner.
> > >>>     
> > >>>     I have a screenshot attached.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Ken Wolcott
> > >> 
> > >> --
> > >> William Rehwinkel
> > >> 
> > >> william@williamrehwinkel.net
> > >> https://williamrehwinkel.net
> > 
> > --
> > William Rehwinkel
> > 
> > william@williamrehwinkel.net
> > https://williamrehwinkel.net

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