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Re: Lyrics above staff height inconsistent

From: Adam Good
Subject: Re: Lyrics above staff height inconsistent
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 16:28:33 -0500

Thank you for your informative and helpful reply!
This, for the win:

    \with {
    \override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing =
      #'((basic-distance . 1.0))

Looks fantastic, problem solved.


On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 12:22 PM Aaron Hill <> wrote:
On 2021-11-10 7:46 am, Adam Good wrote:
> Dear List,
> Here's a question I'm sure has been asked and answered often. I much
> prefer
> lyrics below the staff but if I had to, in the example below, what is
> causing the lyrics on the 2nd and 3rd stafflines to be higher than
> staffline 1? Playing with:
> \override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing.padding
> ...doesn't quite deliver for me.

Padding is only one element of spacing.  You need to consider
basic-distance and minimum-distance, perhaps also stretchability.

LilyPond will try to accommodate basic-distance though it does not force
it to be exact, as it may compress or stretch vertical spacing when
fitting music to the page.  While minimum-distance does define a strict
lower bound for the spacing, elements still could be stretched apart. 
Both basic- and minimum-distance are measured from baseline-to-baseline,
whereas padding factors in the skylines of the content to ensure a
specified distance between "ink".

The default spacing for Lyrics is a basic-distance of 5.5, padding of
0.5, and stretchability of 1.  minimum-distance is unspecified, which I
believe defaults to zero.

In your example, LilyPond could not accommodate the 5.5 basic-distance
for the top line of Lyrics and reduced it to the minimum; however,
factoring in padding results in it being a little further away.  Since
there seems to be quite a bit of paper space available, it is odd that
the basic-distance could not be satisfied.  Perhaps there is a subtle
bug in the layout logic.

The easy fix is to specify minimum-distance as well.  If you like 5.5 as
a basic-distance, just match that value.

-- Aaron Hill

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