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Re: Auto-transposition
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David Wright |
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Re: Auto-transposition |
Date: |
Fri, 15 Dec 2017 10:08:10 -0600 |
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Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) |
On Fri 15 Dec 2017 at 15:52:28 (+0000), Wols Lists wrote:
> On 15/12/17 13:45, David Wright wrote:
> > On Fri 15 Dec 2017 at 10:02:19 (+0000), Wols Lists wrote:
> >> On 15/12/17 06:20, Saul Tobin wrote:
> >>> Relative mode makes perfect sense if you're entering music that cares
> >>> mainly about the relationship between notes within a phrase (i.e. most
> >>> music). IMO absolute mode might be easier from the perspective of the
> >>> software, but it's not how most musicians think, and that's
> >>> important. Maybe the documentation could do a better job explaining the
> >>> semantics of relative mode and when to use \resetRelativeOctave?
> >>>
> >>> I take exception to the idea that relative mode ought to be deprecated.
> >>> I've been using exclusively relative mode to compose for almost ten
> >>> years, and I think it's great.
> >>
> >> I think Han-Wen actually wrote \resetRelativeOctave for me :-)
> >>
> >> But if you don't understand relative then it will mess you up.
> >>
> >> Does anybody (not me :-) want to write a little update for the docu that
> >> will make both relative mode and \resetRelativeOctave (hopefully) clear?
> >>
> >> It originated when I was (iirc) transcribing Chattanooga Choo-Choo, and
> >> there's a repeated phrase, so I thought I'd define it as a variable.
> >> OOOPPSS! The starting and ending notes are a fifth or more apart, and
> >> the phrase repeats with nothing else in-between. The resulting staircase
> >> was spectacular!
> >>
> >> If somebody would care to take that as hint for putting an example in
> >> the docu, that's fine by me! :-)
> >
> > Just use \relative early.
> >
> I was thinking more along the lines of (note this is NOT TESTED)
>
> phrase = { c f d g }
>
> \relative { \phrase \phrase \phrase }
Yes, that's exactly the problem with putting \relative around
constructions rather than the variables themselves, illustrated
by "mover".
> \relative { \resetRelativeOctave \phrase \resetRelativeOctave \phrase
> \resetRelativeOctave \phrase }
Each \resetRelativeOctave needs a pitch to set the octave, but, yes,
that is one way of dealing with the issue. A benefit is that you get
the chance to modify the octavation at each repetition, but that
benefit could also be achieved with \transpose c c' additions instead.
But the solution shown by "stayer" is simpler and more elegant, and
will also make any deliberate octavation changes more obvious in
the source.
Cheers,
David.
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- Re: Auto-transposition, Saul Tobin, 2017/12/15
- Re: Auto-transposition, Gianmaria Lari, 2017/12/15
- Re: Auto-transposition, Wols Lists, 2017/12/15
- Re: Auto-transposition, David Wright, 2017/12/15
- Re: Auto-transposition, Wols Lists, 2017/12/15
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- Re: Auto-transposition, Saul Tobin, 2017/12/15
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- Re: Auto-transposition, Kieren MacMillan, 2017/12/18
- Re: Auto-transposition, David Kastrup, 2017/12/18
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