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RE: Stacking lyrics above dynamics?


From: Anthony Youngman
Subject: RE: Stacking lyrics above dynamics?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 11:26:52 +0100

Following up on that, is there any way of altering which way round other marks 
go? I certainly haven't hit the lyrics/dynamics problems (apart from 
Pennsylvania I haven't used lyrics :-), but the problem I have is accents and 
slurs. Lily seems to prefer to put accents above slurs, while most music I 
typeset seems to be the other way round.

Unless ... I haven't tried this, but would using phrasing slurs rather than 
slurs get round this - I don't think I've yet had to mix normal and phrasing 
slurs...

Cheers,
Wol

-----Original Message-----
From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of Mats Bengtsson
Sent: 14 September 2006 07:59
To: Trevor Bača
Cc: lilypond-user
Subject: Re: Stacking lyrics above dynamics?

One possibility is to typeset the dynamics in a context of its own,
for example using the \Dynamics context definition from the example
"Piano centered dynamics" in the manual.

   /Mats

Trevor Bača wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sane engraving rules position lyrics vertically below dynamics.
>
> Is there a way to reverse this, ie, to position dynamics vertically
> below lyrics? (The "lyrics" in this score aren't lyrics at all, but
> another stratum of information showing a different musical parameter
> altogether.)
>
> Here's the snippet i've been working with:
>
> %%% BEGIN TOY SNIPPET %%%
>
> \version "2.9.16"
>
> \new Staff \with {
>   \override DynamicLineSpanner #'staff-padding = #10
> } <<
>   \new Voice \with {
>   } {
>      \times 4/5 {
>         c'4\f
>         c'4\f
>         c'4\f
>         c'4\f
>         c'4\f
>      }
>   }
>   \new Lyrics \with {
>      %\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-30 . -40)
>      %\override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-padding = #50
>   } \lyricmode {
>      foo4 * 4/5
>      foo4 * 4/5
>      foo4 * 4/5
>      foo4 * 4/5
>      foo4 * 4/5
>   }
>>>
>
> %%% END TOY SNIPPET %%%
>
> I'm able to push the dynamics down to where I want them by setting the
> staff-padding attribute of the DynamicLineSpanner grob. But moving the
> lyrics up *above* the dynamics is proving to be really tricky.
>
> (I've been toying with the VerticalAxisGroup grob in the Lyrics
> context, but all I've been able to do is create padding on either side
> of the lyrics, rather than moving the lyrics above the dynamics.
> Intuitively, it seems like there should be some way to declare a
> stacking order of the different strata within a staff ("first
> dynamics, then lyrics, going down the page") and it seems like maybe
> the VerticalAlignment grob should be the place to set this up, but I
> can't seem to tweak it.)
>
> So any tricks for moving lyrics up above dynamics?
>
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