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Re: \tuplet in \grace

From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: \tuplet in \grace
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 11:00:04 +0200
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Jean Abou Samra <> writes:

> Le 25/07/2021 à 04:28, Dan Eble a écrit :
>> Are tuplet indications on grace notes (M.2 of the example) a feature
>> or a mere side effect of the current implementation?  I'm working on
>> some changes that happen to make them disappear and I want to
>> understand whether I need to debug that.
>> \new Staff \fixed c' {
>>    \new Voice { \tuplet 3/2 4 \grace { g8 g g a8 a a } b1 }
>>    \new Voice { \grace \tuplet 3/2 4 { g8 g g a8 a a } b1 }
>> }
>> Thanks,
> Well, if the user explicitly asks for them like this,
> they should be preserved. Even though I don't have an
> example in mind, tuplets in graces do not seem that contorted
> compared to some contemporary notation features users ask about.
> The first Staff looks more or less like a bug to me;

Not to me.  It says to use tuplets in groups of quarter notes, but the
grace notes don't take up any non-grace duration.  So I don't see it as
a surprise that the grouping doesn't do anything.  I'd expect the grace
timing to be 3 notes to two unmodified grace notes, and that appears to
be the case.

> not an important one though, because the second syntax
> is the intuitive way to write it anyway (at least how
> I'd spontaneously write it).

David Kastrup

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