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Re: outlet v. context

From: Carl Sorensen
Subject: Re: outlet v. context
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 18:02:07 -0600

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 5:32 PM Dan Eble <> wrote:

> On Jul 7, 2020, at 19:20, Carl Sorensen <> wrote:
> >
> > The only time I would like a member function of a class to have a verb
> name is when it causes a side effect.
> >
> > When the job of a function is to return a result that can be used
> elsewhere, to me the goal is a result, and hence, it is a noun.  flag()
> refers to an object -- a flag.  get_flag focuses on the action, not the
> result.  And most often, it's the result that I want -- which is a noun.
> I'll flag() your message and consider it later this evening.

:-).   But you should note that flag() ing a message is a side effect --
you are changing the status of the message, not returning a characteristic
of the message.  And as I said, I like verbs when the function is primarily
a side effect.

As you correctly point out, flag is both a verb and a noun.  But as I
understand it in the domain of LilyPond, flag is virtually always used as a
noun, rather than a verb.

> Should we also consider the Scheme language?
> git grep 'ly:get' scm

At least as it is used in LilyPond, IIUC Scheme doesn't have member
functions.  So we can't do, we do (ly::get_foo grob).

When we don't have member functions available, I am supportive of using

As I said, I'll support whatever is decided.



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