Re: fine-tuning new flags - feedback needed

[Carl Sorensen]

On 1/29/11 4:14 PM, "Janek Warchoł" <address@hidden>
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> After some discussion in "flags, beams and stem length in forced
> directions - output improvement" thread, i've created new flags for
> shorter-stemmed notes and new rules for shortening stems. Please look
> at pdfs linked below and tell me what you think.

Very interesting work, indeed.  Thanks!


> Changes:
> - stem length transition between regular stems and shortened stems is
> now smooth (it's especially visible with unflagged notes),
> - the difference in length between regular stems and shortened stems
> depends on the duration of notes (that's because notes with different
> amount of flags need different treatment),
> - regular stems of 32nd and 128th notes are shorter. I felt they were
> too long, especially compared to the beamed notes - for example the
> stem of the unbeamed e 32nd reaches higher than the beamed f's
> following it,
> - 64th and 128th basic flag shape now matches stem length better (i think).
> 
> I hope that .zip archives are appropriate here...
> Each archive is about 400 KB.
> output from 2.13.45: http://www.sendspace.com/file/6cwf2q
> proposed new output: http://www.sendspace.com/file/52bbz6
> If you don't like the last two changes (shorter regular stems and
> modified basic flags), try this: http://www.sendspace.com/file/gglzoh
> (shortened stems of 8th and 16th notes are also a little bit longer
> here than in previous one)
> 
> I attach .ly files used for testing. You may send me more files if you
> want to see how they would look like.
> I will send a patch with the code changes when i resolve some problems
> i've encountered; as for now i'd like to know your opinions about the
> output itself. I see that there is a problem with dots and single
> flags... I'd gladly help with solving this one, i have some idea what
> the solution may look like.

I prefer the compromise flags to the new flags.  I think that the new flags
are a little bit too short.

I prefer the old stem-down single flags to the new.  The shorter flags seem
to me to be too squat and blocky.

Thanks,

Carl