Re: [libreplanet-discuss] censorship or technical issues in FSF lists?

[Federico klez Culloca]

Il 23 settembre 2019 10:42:02 CEST, Daniel Pocock <daniel@pocock.pro> ha 
scritto:
>
>Hi all,
>
>I received the reply below personally
>
>It includes CC: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org but the message
>didn't appear through the list
>
>Is this because of list settings (requires the list address in the To
>header) or because of some moderation policies or because some people
>are censored?  Can FSF tell us if any people are currently censored on
>this list and if so, how many?
>
>Some people contacted me given the way I have raised concerns about
>censorship in other communities recently.  A rushed change of the
>president appears to be a vulnerable time for any organization.
>
>After FSFE started censoring communications from elected community
>representatives (myself), the discussion was migrated to a parallel
>list.  If anybody wants to know they are receiving every message at
>this
>crucial time, please come and join us there, it can be your canary in
>the coal mine.
>
>https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion
>
>Personal invitations to subscribe have already been sent to many people
>I correspond with.  It is hosted in Switzerland so any censors promise
>to be neutral.  Nonetheless, I would draw your attention to the bigger
>question: Any list admin eventually becomes tempted to censor things,
>which free software technology provides the best way to eliminate the
>risk of censorship?
>
>https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/pipermail/discussion/2019-May/000000.html
>
>Regards,
>
>Daniel
>
>
>-------- Forwarded Message --------
>Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] membership confusion, FSF way
>forward
>Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 11:19:50 +0530
>From: Nishant Sharma <nishant@unmukti.in>
>To: Leah Rowe <info@minifree.org>, Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
><libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>, Daniel Pocock
><daniel@pocock.pro>
>CC: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
>
>
>
>On 23 September 2019 8:48:42 AM IST, Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
><libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote:
>>
>>I take issue with this: there is the issue of vetting regular members.
>>What if a bunch of members are present who do not share the FSF's
>>hardline stance on free software?
>>
>
>I agree. The governance and other decisions should remain with the core
>members who believe and support the hardline stance.
>
>In comparison to democratic governance of a nation, a government
>doesn't
>ask for views / vote from every citizen on every matter. We trust our
>representatives to speak for us and take decisions in the best interest
>of the nation.
>
>Let's have faith in the board members of the FSF and at the same time
>keep a check on them. It is our responsibility to keep writing/talking
>to them to not let them deviate from the principles and ethics it was
>founded on and for.
>
>Regards,
>Nishant
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Yes, and this resulted in electing Garfield (yes, the cat) as a community 
representative. Please, let's not do this again here.