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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Issues on GitHub, Issues on GitHub


From: Aaron Wolf
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Issues on GitHub, Issues on GitHub
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2019 21:06:27 -0700

FWIW, in addition to
https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html which are
outdated somewhat and don't cover much, I've tried to keep updating this
list:
https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/market-research/flo-repos

I've only had substantial time myself with GitHub, GitLab, SourceForge,
and Gitorious (long defunct). My personal sense is that GitHub and
GitLab each have pros and cons in terms of features but GitLab is
somewhat more aligned with software freedom but both are imperfect.
SourceForge is usable and acceptable enough, but I dislike their
ad-focus (note that it is not the awful stuff that the previous owners
did though).

I've heard good things about Phabricator (used by Wikimedia among others).

SourceHut is the one I'm most excited about that looks to be an effort
to make a truly updated, good engineering (not JavaScript crap), and
fully-free. It's early state for the project, but it's the one I'm
cheering the most and want to see really succeed. I haven't actually
used it myself yet.


On 2019-03-27 8:14 p.m., bill-auger wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 20:51:55 -0500 Cal wrote:
>> I'll believe you when Trisquel stops using it.
> 
> FWIW, trisquel started using gitlab many years ago, when it was not
> nearly as libre-friendly as it is today, so you really can not credit
> it for that reason - it was also before pagure existed - i think if
> that decision had to be made again today, that gitlab is not the
> best choice for software freedom concerns - if any of the
> full-featured, self-hosted web forges should be encouraged above
> others, pagure (GPLv2+) and coding-team (AGPL) appear to have the most
> libre-conscious developers, and most of their sites' functionality works
> with javascript completely disabled (good engineering, yes Aaron?)
> 
> however, i would not expect to see trisquel or any gitlab users change
> any time soon, mostly because it is very difficult to get your data out
> of those forges - almost all of them have an inherent "vendor lock-in"
> effect - pagure is the only one that makes complete migrations simple,
> which is the best reason to favor it IMHO
> 
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