Re: [libreplanet-discuss] We need a Great campaign To tell the programmers to improve their programs To work well with the screen Reader

[Ali Abdul Ghani]

> Then it seems that blind is a spectrum and that 97% of people that are blind 
> in UK can acutually see a bit so screen readers might not be needed but better
> font contrast.

> Does this mean that what most people use is the web so that programs 
> (applications) is really not as big an issue (urgent)? And the focus of a 
> campaign
> should be aimed at web?
no
You can not build the  ideas in a single state
UK is Safe place
And there is no wars such in as the Middle East
In my country there are millions of the blinds do not see anything
have fun and be free
ali miracle



2016-03-23 15:56 جرينتش-08:00, Alejandro Soto <alejandrosotochacon@yahoo.es>:
>
> El 23/03/2016 a las 16:49, Andrés Muñiz Piniella escribió:
>> * A recent survey from webAIM https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAIM
>> showed that it seems  that JAWS is loosing market share to nvda but of
>> course that only works on windows.
> Someone needs to port NVDA to other platforms other than Windows. I'm
> sorry to say it, but from own experience, and that from other
> partly-sighted/blind users, Orca could do much better.
>> Then it seems that blind is a spectrum and that 97% of people that are
>> blind in UK can acutually see a bit so screen readers might not be needed
>> but better font contrast.
> According to the World Health Organization
> (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs282/en/), there are 246
> million people with low vision and 39 million are completely blind
> worldwide. That's ~13.6% of the "visual issues spectrum". However, I can
> say, mostly from my own personal experiences, that for some fairly
> common visual diseases, such as Retinitis Pigmentosa, that high contrast
> levels, big fonts, etc... hardly ever make a difference. For quite a few
> of us, screen readers are the only way to use GUIs... but us geeks who
> know how to use bash can easily get around that ;). It's a bit ironic
> that good and old command lines are incredibly more accessible than any
> other form of user interface that has been invented since. I mean, emacs
> is our best friend for some reason, no? I would definitively call emacs
> the most accessible _and_ flexible application ever, plus it's free
> software!
>> Does this mean that what most people use is the web so that programs
>> (applications) is really not as big an issue (urgent)? And the focus of a
>> campaign should be aimed at web?
> Again, let's not generalize. Even if there was a single blind person in
> the world, his/her needs would be a priority. Applications _are_ a
> problem, and a bigger one that the web. That is for several reasons.
> Firstly, the browser itself is an application, no? Then, when your
> screen reader is unable to navigate through Gmail's web page, you
> install Thunderbird, right? Well, then we have the fact that the OS' GUI
> itself is sort of an application. It needs to be accessible, too! We
> have to write documents and spreadsheets for work and the stuff, too.
> Things such as LibreOffice have a _long_ way to go in order to be
> accessible... emacs is enough most of the time, anyway ;). There are
> lots of niche applications we often need to use, like every user, and
> need to rely on them being accessible.
>
> A campaign or some support of the like would certainly be helpful. As
> far as I can see, most people here are here because they appreciate
> their fundamental freedoms, and because they are willing to help. I am a
> (hobbyist) programmer, so I am definitively willing to help here as
> however I can.
>
> Cheers,
>   - Alejandro Soto
>
>


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