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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] RollApp: proof that we need to deprecate GPL f


From: Yoni Rabkin
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] RollApp: proof that we need to deprecate GPL for AGPL for everything
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2015 16:03:49 -0400
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Aaron Wolf <address@hidden> writes:

> On 09/12/2015 10:38 AM, Yoni Rabkin wrote:
>> Aaron Wolf <address@hidden> writes:
>> 
>>> On 09/12/2015 09:58 AM, Yoni Rabkin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't agree with this; I don't think that everyone should be forced to
>>>> further distribute all software
>>>> (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLRequireSourcePostedPublic).
>>>>
>>>> But based on your stance that all culture should be modifiable, I at
>>>> least understand (and I think also appreciate) where you are coming
>>>> from.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think you are confused. The AGPL and my own views do NOT say that
>>> anyone is forced to distribute. Period.
>>>
>>> If you do *private* things with any AGPL or other cultural works or
>>> programs, you can do anything you want at all, period.
>> 
>> I guess that would depend on what you consider private use
>> (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#UnreleasedMods)
>> 
>
> Yoni, the AGPL does not come into effect if a company uses software
> *internally*. That is private. That is what it means. This
> interpretation is legally solid enough that no judgment-call or "what
> you consider" step is needed.

I can't say anything about what's legal; I'm not a lawyer.

My understanding of the situation is that people inside the same
organization where the software is deployed are not excluded from the
group "users interacting with it remotely through a computer network"
merely because they're part of the same organization.

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