Re: [Liberty-eiffel] Random thoughts about a Windows distribution

[Raphael Mack]

Hi,

most of us work with Emacs - and I for eaxample do not even work with  
the integration to start the compiler from emacs. - I have a terminal  
for this ;-) So the simples way would probably to include Emacs in the  
package and make it work sommothly. The next (in order of effort/user  
acceptance ratio) would probably be to write an ecplise plugin.  
Creating a useful IDE for Eiffel is much work and seems impossible  
with current manpower. And take look at all those IDE that come with  
current embedded compilers: They are either eclipse based or unusable  
or even both, so take them as bad examples how not to do it ;-). If  
any of you here want to do it from scratch: go for it - I'll support  
you where ever possible. But I guess I won't be able to write a single  
line of code ;-(

Anyhow, wrapping fox toolkit seems not the badest choice...

Cheers,
Rapha


Zitat von Germán Arias <address@hidden>:

> Hi,
>
> On 2014-08-20 11:32:06 -0600 Hans Zwakenberg  |  Ocean Consulting  
> GmbH <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> > Hi group,
> >
> > as I'm slowly working towards creating a working Windows distribution, some
> > random thoughts cropped up, that I'd like to discuss:
> >
> > - Windows programmers generally aren't too keen about languages without any
> > native GUI support, unless the language is meant for web- or
> > script-programming
> > - Windows programmers generally sort of expect that a compiler comes with an
> > IDE
> > that shortens edit/compile/test-cycles
> >
> > It's moot to start a discussion about whether such Win-progger  
> > sentiments are
> > justified or not, it's just the dynamics of the Windows scene as I  
> > got to know
> > it.
> >
> > Since the team is very small, perhaps we should think about the availability
> > of
> > either of the above in a cross-platform way:
> > - are any of the x-platform GUI's wrapped to Eiffel already? (Perhaps
> > wxWidgets
> > or some other good library?)
>
> I was looking this too. There is:
>
> http://fox-toolkit.org/
>
> Seem still in development. It have a wrapper for Eiffel here:
>
> http://eiffelfox.sourceforge.net/
>
> But this is unmaintained. No idea if this could be hard to update.
>
> > - is there any x-platform editor (perhaps Java-based?) that can be used to
> > attached scripts to configurable buttons?  ("comppile", "make", or whatever,
> > etc...)
>
> This could be done easily with Emacs. I can help with this.
>
> Germán.
>
> > Any suggestion about the above is very welcome indeed!  Also any other idea
> > about easing a newbie's entry into Eiffel - and how to reach him is welcome.
> > I
> > suppose that last question is about marketing communications really, but you
> > get
> > my drift...
> >
> > cheers
> > Hans