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Re: Blocking Yury Norov from libc-alpha

From: Carlos O'Donell
Subject: Re: Blocking Yury Norov from libc-alpha
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 22:08:37 -0400
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On 10/21/2016 03:08 PM, Paul Eggert wrote:
> On 10/21/2016 10:40 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> I am still oppose to blocking public access without clear rules
> It is good to have clear rules for blocking. However, it's
> unrealistic to expect blocks to always follow clear rules that are
> set in advance, because misbehavior cannot always be anticipated. So
> any rules that we establish should have an escape clause that says
> that the rules do not constrain us from blocking merely because a
> particular misbehavior is not specifically listed.
I disagree.

New kinds of misbehaviour simply mean we need to adjust the public
set of rules for blocking public access.

The first offender generally gets off with a warning, and if they
offend again you block their access.

This is the only fair and equitable way to treat offenders when the
rules for offending are not clear.

Keep in mind I'm only talking about public access. Access that we
work hard to make sure that everyone in the public can use to 
interact with the community.

I am also of the opinion that you really need to show gross negligence
or abusive behaviour to be banned from public services e.g. harassment,
discrimination, hate speech etc.

I think that simply being "incompetent" means developers will delete
your emails, nobody will review your patches, and you'll never get
commit privileges. Eventually you will just go away, or someone will
coach you and you'll get better.


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